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Old 10th October 2003   #1
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Default 10D developed picture underexposed.

Hi all,

I just develop some shots taken with my 10D. Both my computer LCD and 10D LCD display shown clear and good exposured pictures . But after develop some of my photo were dark when i compare it to the displayed photo on either PC LCD or 10D LCD.

Does any 10d user encountered this problem also? It seem like I can't rely too much on 10D LCD.

All shot developed with "No adjustment".
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Old 10th October 2003   #2
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could it be you set the LCD brightness of your 10D too high
i think 2/5 brightness is a nice balance
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I had transfer the unedited photo back to 10D and set the brightness to 1/5 but photo details is still visable but printed photo still kind of dark.
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Originally Posted by Matrix
I had transfer the unedited photo back to 10D and set the brightness to 1/5 but photo details is still visable but printed photo still kind of dark.
Is your monitor properly calibrated? What colour space are you using for your image file? What software are you using to view the pictures? And which lab are you using?

I've got a 300D but haven't got the chance to print anything yet. However, my A3 enlargements of shots taken with my G3 (in sRGB colour space) printed at fotohub has quite accurate colour reproduction.

You might like to post an example of the image concerned for us to take a look.
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u need to calibrate your monitor, and then embed the monitor profile to the JPEG files before sending them to the lab.
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would be good to post a sample. the photo labs might have done some "auto-levels" before printing.
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I am using notebook and my LCD is not calibrated. I had developed all my shots at Kim Tian colour Centre but I must say I like their service and print out is generally better the kodak that i used to develop(dun flame me just what i see and compare between kodak and fuji paper). Anyways I will be getting the calibrating CD from them when they got stock.

Now my question is, can I adjust my 10D LCD to display a more accurately?

OR should I let photo lab do adjustment for all my shots next time? But it will take longer to process.

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Originally Posted by teL
Is your monitor properly calibrated? What colour space are you using for your image file? What software are you using to view the pictures? And which lab are you using?

I've got a 300D but haven't got the chance to print anything yet. However, my A3 enlargements of shots taken with my G3 (in sRGB colour space) printed at fotohub has quite accurate colour reproduction.

You might like to post an example of the image concerned for us to take a look.
Should be RGB. using ACDSee to view. btw how to set monitor/LCD to view sRGB file?
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When i did my first print from my d30, i was horrified at how dark my pictures were. The main problem lies in that my monitor was not calibrated. To rectify, i decreased the gamma level in my photoshop software to match image in the monitor to the underexposed print.

The brightness thereafter was accurate...
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Originally Posted by tert
When i did my first print from my d30, i was horrified at how dark my pictures were. The main problem lies in that my monitor was not calibrated. To rectify, i decreased the gamma level in my photoshop software to match image in the monitor to the underexposed print.

The brightness thereafter was accurate...

hey may I know how you adjust the gamma level in photoshop? Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by Matrix
I am using notebook and my LCD is not calibrated.
Now my question is, can I adjust my 10D LCD to display a more accurately?
There lies your problem -- uncalibrated LCD. I suggest that you use Adobe Gamma which comes with Photoshop to do your calibration. A site that you can visit too: http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/index.html

You will find that the 10D LCD (my G3 too as well as 300D) would usually display colours that are much brighter than what you would get on a calibrated monitor / or when printed out. So use the LCD only as a rough preview and use the histogram to gauge your exposure instead.

Tweaking your images in Photoshop (adjusting levels/brightness/contrast) can make them significantly better than directly off the camera. I personnaly tweak them before I send any for printing.
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Originally Posted by mylau
u need to calibrate your monitor, and then embed the monitor profile to the JPEG files before sending them to the lab.
Sending a picture in the colour space of your own monitor will not result in accurate colour of prints. Use at least the sRGB colour space, or better still use properly calibrated profile meant for that specific Frontier or Noritsu printer which your stills are going to be printed from. And do note that Frontier or Noritsu printers ignore embedded colour profiles in the picture. Have a read here of the entire process and especially take note of point 15. Therefore converting the photo to the colour space of the printer will be sufficient as your last step, embedding it though isn't necessary.

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Originally Posted by teL
There lies your problem -- uncalibrated LCD. I suggest that you use Adobe Gamma which comes with Photoshop to do your calibration. A site that you can visit too: http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/index.html

You will find that the 10D LCD (my G3 too as well as 300D) would usually display colours that are much brighter than what you would get on a calibrated monitor / or when printed out. So use the LCD only as a rough preview and use the histogram to gauge your exposure instead.

Tweaking your images in Photoshop (adjusting levels/brightness/contrast) can make them significantly better than directly off the camera. I personnaly tweak them before I send any for printing.
Wow nice site! Thanks bro for sharing this great site for calibration.
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