EOS 10D vs 300D

[zipper]

Sorry I know this is a bored question.

I just want to know if I go for 10D, do I miss out any good feature in 300D?

I know there are some extra good features in 10D which 300D does not have and that's why I think I don't mind paying ~$800 extra (just guessing based on the newbie guide) for the body... anyway, the investment in lenses will be the same, right? (I am assuming both can use the same lens??)...


Thanks & regards.

[majere2sg]

Originally Posted by zipper Sorry I know this is a bored question. I just want to know if I go for 10D, do I miss out any good feature in 300D? I know there are some extra good features in 10D which 300D does not have and that's why I think I don't mind paying ~$800 extra (just guessing based on the newbie guide) for the body... anyway, the investment in lenses will be the same, right? (I am assuming both can use the same lens??)... Thanks & regards.

You can't use the EF-S Lens on 10D and you will have a heavier but sturdier body.

[ivor]

In my humble opinion, you miss nothing, except that you spend S$1000.00 more, and the metallic silver color body. That's all...

Originally Posted by zipper Sorry I know this is a bored question. I just want to know if I go for 10D, do I miss out any good feature in 300D? I know there are some extra good features in 10D which 300D does not have and that's why I think I don't mind paying ~$800 extra (just guessing based on the newbie guide) for the body... anyway, the investment in lenses will be the same, right? (I am assuming both can use the same lens??)... Thanks & regards.

[loupgarou]

http://www.marius.org/cgi-bin/fom?_r...file=1#file_42

some mistakes:

focus mode in sports mode = ai servo. all others ai focus and one shot depending on when the subject moves.

[chriszzz]

Originally Posted by zipper Sorry I know this is a bored question. I just want to know if I go for 10D, do I miss out any good feature in 300D? I know there are some extra good features in 10D which 300D does not have and that's why I think I don't mind paying ~$800 extra (just guessing based on the newbie guide) for the body... anyway, the investment in lenses will be the same, right? (I am assuming both can use the same lens??)... Thanks & regards.

More important points :

1. 300D cannot select Continuous Focus vs Single Focus. The 300D will decide which to use. The only way to force continuous focus is to switch to Sports mode ( Dummy mode ), or to try and trick the camera to make the switch in creative mode. There are some info on tricking the body on the Net.

2. No flash exposure compensation on the body. No 2nd curtain sync or slow sync mode on the body. If you need these, you must get an external flash that supports these. Currently, only the very expensive 550EX ( around $600) support this. You can also try the cheaper Sigma 550EF DG Super ( or whatever it's called ).

3. The 300D always uses evaluative metering, unless you use exposure lock, in which case it will switch to partial metering.

4. Ugly silver body vs the 10D's handsome, more robust black body.

5. 10D does not support EFS lens, which means that if you want wide angle, you will need to spend some really serious cash, easily topping $1000-2000 just to get 28mm. 300D comes with a 29mm lens that works just fine.

IMHO, 1 and 2 are truely annoying, so you will have to see if you can live with it. 3 is OK to me, since I almost always use evaluative metering anyway, and I can still switch to partial metering by doing an exposure lock. 4 is minor to me since I'm not going to be banging it around. 5 is an important consideration if you like wide angles ( < 30mm ).

[mpenza]

1. don't find this to be any problem at all.... unless the person needs to track the target for a while before shooting.
2. there's slow sync with Av. lack of FEC could be problematic but the 550EX works fine.
3. could really be problematic at times where you know the best metering mode is spot or centre.
4. colour is fine... but may not be as robust as the 10D

[ST1100]

Eh, friends, no offence, but you all got read his question or not? He wants to know in what ways the 300D is BETTER than the 10D, not the other way round. i think only the first reply answered his question.

Anyway, here are a few more advantages of the 300D:

1. 300D has higher popup flash.

2. Weight and size advantage.

3. $1000

4. Looks cheaper, so hopefully thieves and robbers will go for the other guy with the 10D.

i don't know of an anything else you might miss if you get a 10D.

[Castlesinthesky]

CP has no 10D atm, outta stock.

[mpenza]

Originally Posted by ST1100 Eh, friends, no offence, but you all got read his question or not? He wants to know in what ways the 300D is BETTER than the 10D, not the other way round. i think only the first reply answered his question.

Yar hor

Weight and size are the 2 main advantages for me. The kit lens is a nice bonus.

[NorthernLights]

Originally Posted by ST1100 Eh, friends, no offence, but you all got read his question or not? He wants to know in what ways the 300D is BETTER than the 10D, not the other way round. i think only the first reply answered his question. Anyway, here are a few more advantages of the 300D: 1. 300D has higher popup flash. 2. Weight and size advantage. 3. $1000 4. Looks cheaper, so hopefully thieves and robbers will go for the other guy with the 10D. i don't know of an anything else you might miss if you get a 10D.

300D advantage - Supports EF-S lens which Canon may concentrate on to make affordable wide angle lens...12-24 f4.5-5.6 EF-S lens? 10D - no EF-S and will never accept EF-S...works differently.

[teL]

Originally Posted by ivor In my humble opinion, you miss nothing, except that you spend S$1000.00 more, and the metallic silver color body. That's all...

Black body, white body, silver body?... As long as the camera can take good pictures, it can be considered as a good camera. And the 300D can take good pictures, that's for sure

Originally Posted by NorthernLights 300D advantage - Supports EF-S lens which Canon may concentrate on to make affordable wide angle lens...12-24 f4.5-5.6 EF-S lens? 10D - no EF-S and will never accept EF-S...works differently.

Yes, this is THE strength of 300D. Becos' of this, it is possible to make use of an adaptor to mount great optics like contax mount Zeiss lenses or the Leica-R and work perfectly with the 300D (w/o hitting the mirror). Same thing cannot be said for 10D. Look at this combo:

300D with Zeiss Makro Planar

Of course, this is useful only when you already have some Zeiss or Leica lenses (especially, superwide).

[ST1100]

Originally Posted by Nescafe Yes, this is THE strength of 300D. Becos' of this, it is possible to make use of an adaptor to mount great optics like contax mount Zeiss lenses or the Leica-R and work perfectly with the 300D (w/o hitting the mirror). Same thing cannot be said for 10D. Look at this combo: 300D with Zeiss Makro Planar Of course, this is useful only when you already have some Zeiss or Leica lenses (especially, superwide).

Where does one get that adaptor?

And also, that config - you lose autofocus and do stop down metering, right?

[zipper]

So, I guess the followings summarise the inputs:

What I don't get on 10D which 300D has:

1. Can't use EF-S lens, EF-S 18-55/3.5-5.6 USM, which is currently one and only one, a less costly wide angle solution.
2. Lighter weight and smaller in size.
3. Infrared Remote Control
4. Higher(taller) popup flash
5. smaller hole in my pocket..hehe.

Thanks guys.

BTW, in searching for input I found this link which may be interested by some members.

http://www.photo.net/equipment/canon...0D_lenses.html

[zipper]

Originally Posted by ivor In my humble opinion, you miss nothing, except that you spend S$1000.00 more, and the metallic silver color body. That's all...

Noticed you have a good collection:

EOS 10D on a Gitzo G1120 MK2 w/Manfrotto 486RC2
- Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM
- Canon EF 35mm f/2
- Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM
- Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

Do you mind telling me how you had invested so far? And the individual costs, if it is okay for u? Thanks.

[Garion]

Originally Posted by zipper Noticed you have a good collection: EOS 10D on a Gitzo G1120 MK2 w/Manfrotto 486RC2 - Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM - Canon EF 35mm f/2 - Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM - Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM Do you mind telling me how you had invested so far? And the individual costs, if it is okay for u? Thanks.

I believe you missed out the most important line below all that equipment:

"Never believe in what my signature reads"

[majere2sg]

Originally Posted by zipper Noticed you have a good collection: EOS 10D on a Gitzo G1120 MK2 w/Manfrotto 486RC2 - Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM - Canon EF 35mm f/2 - Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM - Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM Do you mind telling me how you had invested so far? And the individual costs, if it is okay for u? Thanks.

The Manfrotto 486RC2 ballhead is around $80.
Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM around $1.3k
Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM around $800 to $900.
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM should be above $2k.

[zipper]

Originally Posted by Garion I believe you missed out the most important line below all that equipment: "Never believe in what my signature reads"

So, can believe or not!!!

[zipper]

Originally Posted by majere2sg The Manfrotto 486RC2 ballhead is around $80. Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM around $1.3k Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM around $800 to $900. Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM should be above $2k.

That's really a big investment!