NEW -fuji F200EXR is out

kirosang · 4th February 2009

see for yourself for the new FUJI F200EXR.
http://fujifilm.jp/personal/digitalc...exr/index.html

this is a japanese site. Just use google translate to get it translate.

see the sample picture here
http://fujifilm.jp/personal/digitalc...portfolio.html

can't wait to hold it.

eow · 4th February 2009

a bit let down
it f stop f3.3 only at wide

avo · 4th February 2009

The 400 ISO photo on the japan website is not all that great......

cssoonhoe · 4th February 2009

I think Fujifilm uses back the same body design as F100FD, thats why its still the same f3.3 stop..

ZeroDivine · 4th February 2009

yeah the sample website not that impressive, esp the 400 ISO.
was expecting more from their EXR sensor..

will wait for the review,.

elvin · 4th February 2009

details on dpreview here:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0902/09...pixf200exr.asp

lightsabre · 5th February 2009

There is no need to go to the Japanese site, unless you prefer to and can read Japanese

The English sites:

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/dig...ges/index.html

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/dig...exr/index.html

madmacs · 5th February 2009

would be nice if it had a 24mm wide end and aperture of f/2.0-2.8 like the lx3.

kirosang · 5th February 2009

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/re.../05/10144.html

found some more sample picture.

Saycheese78 · 5th February 2009

Originally Posted by kirosang

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/re.../05/10144.html

found some more sample picture.

The 6MP high noise reduction got diff meh? Cam is almost usable at ISO800.. performance is as good as DSLR D40 between ISO800-1600... cool. Of course, image lose a bit of sharpness though..

The lens not that extremely sharp though.. I somehow feel the camera lens performance was stagnant since F31d.. any1 agree? :P

pisduck · 5th February 2009

actually if the extra DR is like s3pro kind of range or at least DSLR kind of range... I will be the first to buy it.

garagez · 5th February 2009

the super ccd turn me on,,,and i'm quite hapey with some features , let's see when it reach our shore

cheers

vincecarlo · 5th February 2009

Let's see how the actual pictures measure up to the F100fd which is the closes sibling in the stable

For PnS, my priority in choice is zoom range and high ISO noise control.

RSKeisuke · 6th February 2009

is this the one to replace my F30?

TheChef · 6th February 2009

I feel quite fortunate that I still have a mint condition F31fd.

lightsabre · 6th February 2009

Originally Posted by Saycheese78

The 6MP high noise reduction got diff meh? Cam is almost usable at ISO800.. performance is as good as DSLR D40 between ISO800-1600... cool. Of course, image lose a bit of sharpness though..

The lens not that extremely sharp though.. I somehow feel the camera lens performance was stagnant since F31d.. any1 agree? :P

Since the NR mode is in 6mpx, the first question that came into my mind was 'What if we just downsample the 12mpx to 6mpx, would that be the same?'. We all know that downsampling improves noise performance.

So I did a little experiment. I took the images at ISO 1600 and downsampled the 12mpx to 6mpx and compare it to the EXR-NR mode at ISO 1600:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3425/...869ca039_o.jpg

As you can see, the NR version retains a lot more details on the cactus when compared to the downsampled version. The noise behavior in the shadows is also better on the EXR-NR mode.

As for the DR Priority vs non-DR, I struggle a little to see the difference. It seems like there are more details, crisper and better contrast, especially on the buildings, but I can't really say conclusively.

The only area I can conclusively say that the DR version has more details is in the water. But then again this could be due to wind...

Look at the water in the following image, there seems to be more details in the DR Priority mode.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3315/...552ffdcc_o.jpg

Photo credits all belongs to:

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/re.../05/10144.html

playst · 8th February 2009

Wha this camera will kill off the old F31 for good with the new CCD EXR !!! Last time people keep on saying F100FD no fight with F31 end up it also hit the top list of dpreview as one of the best camera !!!

Photokina 2008: Fujifilm says its new Super CCD EXR technology will allow its next generation of premium compacts to produce high-ISO images "superior to the F31fd," while also offering improved dynamic range in other shooting conditions. The technology is already fully developed and will be integrated into the first camera in time for a spring 2009 launch.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08092308fujifilm.asp

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Q408...oup/page12.asp

yilishengxian · 9th February 2009

Will this one suck dust onto the sensor like the F30? My F30 having dust on the sensor quite frequently ...

armadillo · 9th February 2009

Hmmm I never have dust problem with my F31

drake336 · 10th February 2009

Someone caught this at dpreview...

F200exr does not have an iris diaphragm for aperture control... it uses a constant aperture and stops down via ND filter...

Which means, no DoF control. See user manual for proof:

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/dig..._manual_01.pdf

no real aperture = fixed DoF at given focal length = deal breaker for me...

4th February 2009	#1
kirosang New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: KL Posts: 10	NEW -fuji F200EXR is out see for yourself for the new FUJI F200EXR. http://fujifilm.jp/personal/digitalc...exr/index.html this is a japanese site. Just use google translate to get it translate. see the sample picture here http://fujifilm.jp/personal/digitalc...portfolio.html can't wait to hold it.

4th February 2009	#2
eow Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,501	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out a bit let down it f stop f3.3 only at wide __________________ 头可断，血可流,倩女不可不追求 carpe diem,when in doubt, hoot first,apologise later:p GALLERY

4th February 2009	#3
avo Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 107	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out The 400 ISO photo on the japan website is not all that great......

4th February 2009	#4
cssoonhoe Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 72	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out I think Fujifilm uses back the same body design as F100FD, thats why its still the same f3.3 stop..

4th February 2009	#5
ZeroDivine Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,623	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out yeah the sample website not that impressive, esp the 400 ISO. was expecting more from their EXR sensor.. will wait for the review,. __________________ .gallery

4th February 2009	#6
elvin Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 164	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out details on dpreview here: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0902/09...pixf200exr.asp

5th February 2009	#7
lightsabre Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 483	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out There is no need to go to the Japanese site, unless you prefer to and can read Japanese The English sites: http://www.fujifilm.com/products/dig...ges/index.html http://www.fujifilm.com/products/dig...exr/index.html __________________ "Take a picture, it'll last longer..." My Blog

5th February 2009	#8
madmacs Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,437	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out would be nice if it had a 24mm wide end and aperture of f/2.0-2.8 like the lx3. __________________ My Photos On Multiply

5th February 2009	#9
kirosang New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: KL Posts: 10	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/re.../05/10144.html found some more sample picture.

5th February 2009	#11
pisduck Deregistered Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 367	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out actually if the extra DR is like s3pro kind of range or at least DSLR kind of range... I will be the first to buy it.

5th February 2009	#12
garagez Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 513	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out the super ccd turn me on,,,and i'm quite hapey with some features , let's see when it reach our shore cheers

5th February 2009	#13
vincecarlo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,405	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out Let's see how the actual pictures measure up to the F100fd which is the closes sibling in the stable For PnS, my priority in choice is zoom range and high ISO noise control. __________________ SIN '09 http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=586476

6th February 2009	#14
RSKeisuke Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Punggol, Singapore Posts: 61	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out is this the one to replace my F30?

6th February 2009	#15
TheChef Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Where the action is Posts: 1,317	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out I feel quite fortunate that I still have a mint condition F31fd.

8th February 2009	#17
playst Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 52	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out Wha this camera will kill off the old F31 for good with the new CCD EXR !!! Last time people keep on saying F100FD no fight with F31 end up it also hit the top list of dpreview as one of the best camera !!! Photokina 2008: Fujifilm says its new Super CCD EXR technology will allow its next generation of premium compacts to produce high-ISO images "superior to the F31fd," while also offering improved dynamic range in other shooting conditions. The technology is already fully developed and will be integrated into the first camera in time for a spring 2009 launch. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08092308fujifilm.asp http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Q408...oup/page12.asp

9th February 2009	#18
yilishengxian Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pandan 花园 Posts: 3,798	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out Will this one suck dust onto the sensor like the F30? My F30 having dust on the sensor quite frequently ... __________________ Every Photo Speaks for its Photographer. 开心就好。 My GWC Collection

9th February 2009	#19
armadillo Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pinnacle, Duxton (future) Posts: 624	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out Hmmm I never have dust problem with my F31

10th February 2009	#20
drake336 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 827	Re: NEW -fuji F200EXR is out Someone caught this at dpreview... F200exr does not have an iris diaphragm for aperture control... it uses a constant aperture and stops down via ND filter... Which means, no DoF control. See user manual for proof: http://www.fujifilm.com/products/dig..._manual_01.pdf no real aperture = fixed DoF at given focal length = deal breaker for me...