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    Default Straits Times infringes copyright by taking Facebook picture of triathlete

    The Straits Times took a picture from a national athlete's facebook account. Not very nice and definitely not legal.

    http://redsports.sg/2009/02/02/mok-y...n-triathlon-2/

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    i believe that there is a law that protects them

    anyone knows the exact wording of that law?

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    Defamation perhaps?

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    http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_versi...=1965-REVED-75

    Slander of women.
    4. Words spoken and published which impute unchastity or adultery to any woman or girl shall not require special damage to render them actionable.

    Slander affecting official, professional or business reputation.
    5. In an action for slander in respect of words calculated to disparage the plaintiff in any office, profession, calling, trade or business held or carried on by him at the time of the publication, it shall not be necessary to allege or prove special damage whether or not the words are spoken of the plaintiff in the way of his office, profession, calling, trade or business.

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    They are adults, more than 18YO of legal age.
    Some people say they were representing SGP, so should behave themselves.
    These people should wake up!
    At Olympics village, condoms are freely distributed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxwagon View Post
    They are adults, more than 18YO of legal age.
    Some people say they were representing SGP, so should behave themselves.
    These people should wake up!
    At Olympics village, condoms are freely distributed.
    Why so ready to believe the worst of people?

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    seriously give this couple a break.. this is wad i call BO LIAO

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    In Olympics Village, condoms are distributed freely. So what? Should our athletes take them and use them?

    In a competition, athletes have to maintain their professionalism, before their races. Hence the rules, since kids nowadays cant think for themselves. They are athletes, they are not overseas for a tour. Primary objective is to win their race. Or at least do their best. Getting caught in each other's room? Bad idea. It not only reflects bad on the athletes, but what if competing athletes discover it, and start spreading slanderous remarks on it? Detrimental. Very Detrimental.

    Whatever they do AFTER the races, is usually taken with a closed eye. Even in the Olympics Village, the orgies start after all the races are over. Go check, if you are unconvinced, with one of our Singaporean Swimmers who went there before.

    Point is, if they get banned, they deserved it. They know the rules, they broke it. As athletes, they do not have that self discipline. So their photos should not be taken from the Facebook, cos its bad. So?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luntut View Post
    In Olympics Village, condoms are distributed freely. So what? Should our athletes take them and use them?

    In a competition, athletes have to maintain their professionalism, before their races. Hence the rules, since kids nowadays cant think for themselves. They are athletes, they are not overseas for a tour. Primary objective is to win their race. Or at least do their best. Getting caught in each other's room? Bad idea. It not only reflects bad on the athletes, but what if competing athletes discover it, and start spreading slanderous remarks on it? Detrimental. Very Detrimental.

    Whatever they do AFTER the races, is usually taken with a closed eye. Even in the Olympics Village, the orgies start after all the races are over. Go check, if you are unconvinced, with one of our Singaporean Swimmers who went there before.

    Point is, if they get banned, they deserved it. They know the rules, they broke it. As athletes, they do not have that self discipline. So their photos should not be taken from the Facebook, cos its bad. So?
    I noticed your signature says RTFM .. I think you should practice that by RTFA (article). The reason shw cited for going to the room was cos she was put in a block at the games village where there was no one else there. On top of the fact that the Bali Bombers were hanged that day and there was news that things might turn violent.

    Also .. the story is about how the press is sensationalizing stories and also the issue of rights infrignement. Please .. read the story first before commenting.
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    The law will protect them only if they give sufficient acknowledgement of the work. I didn't see the article so I can't tell if this was the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    i believe that there is a law that protects them

    anyone knows the exact wording of that law?

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    In all honesty they knew the rules and chose to broke it. Yes it is unfortunate the case has reached it's proportions now but all the talk of fear of bombing is not valid in my opinion. I mean I am sure there were Singapore Officials who went along. The lady could have brought up the point the moment she got there or during the point when she felt she couldn't sleep at night to them. She should not have gone and simply stayed in the room knowing full well it is a breach of rules. Even if there are no Singapore Officials, I am sure she could have brought it up to the village staff.

    They are national athletes, they represent Singapore and unfortunately they have responsibilities.

    It is the same theory of how when you are in the working world, and your overseas counterparts judge your company by how you behave.

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    Default Re: Straits Times infringes copyright by taking Facebook picture of triathlete

    such is the price of fame

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    http://redsports.sg/2009/02/02/mok-y...han-triathlon/

    (There was even a picture that the Straits Times ripped from Ying Ren’s Facebook account of a smiling Ying Ren and Dinah Chan, a picture that Ying Ren obviously didn’t give Straits Times permission to use since the photo credit didn’t say “Courtesy of Mok Ying Ren” but “www.facebook.com” instead.)
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    In that case, it is in my opinion, not sufficient acknowledgement. Yet another point against ST (see previous thread where I discussed this issue of Credit to "Internet Photo"). ST is under the misconception that anything on the Internet is free. They really need to check with their legal department or their external counsel if their inhouse doesn't know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luntut View Post
    In Olympics Village, condoms are distributed freely. So what? Should our athletes take them and use them?

    In a competition, athletes have to maintain their professionalism, before their races. Hence the rules, since kids nowadays cant think for themselves. They are athletes, they are not overseas for a tour. Primary objective is to win their race. Or at least do their best. Getting caught in each other's room? Bad idea. It not only reflects bad on the athletes, but what if competing athletes discover it, and start spreading slanderous remarks on it? Detrimental. Very Detrimental.

    Whatever they do AFTER the races, is usually taken with a closed eye. Even in the Olympics Village, the orgies start after all the races are over. Go check, if you are unconvinced, with one of our Singaporean Swimmers who went there before.

    Point is, if they get banned, they deserved it. They know the rules, they broke it. As athletes, they do not have that self discipline. So their photos should not be taken from the Facebook, cos its bad. So?
    think you miss the point in this thread, entirely.

    this thread is about discussing the photography copyright issues rather then the athletes in question.

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    Looks like we have also contributed to sentionalising this story......... hahahha.....

    Give the guys a break lah..... they have not done anything indecent...

    Does it means all atheletes has to become a monk and nun to stay competitive? I dun think so lah. These atheletes are super fit and energised, if we as normal people needs it regularly even though we are not as fit as them, I would think they need it more than us? Tio boh eh? heehhee.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalltake View Post
    Looks like we have also contributed to sentionalising this story......... hahahha.....

    Give the guys a break lah..... they have not done anything indecent...

    Does it means all atheletes has to become a monk and nun to stay competitive? I dun think so lah. These atheletes are super fit and energised, if we as normal people needs it regularly even though we are not as fit as them, I would think they need it more than us? Tio boh eh? heehhee.......

    The point here is u are a NATIONAL ATHLETE WEARING THE NATIONAL COLORS AT A EVENT REPRESENTING SINGAPORE.... So you watch your behavior and don't do anything as shameful as this... to be caught in the same room. That in itself being in the same room says alot. Did they do anything or not. I don't know and wont speculate but tongues will wag among other athletes and officials of other countries of our discipline. What they want to do in their free time out of competition is their own issue. But when you wear the national colors at a international event, you don't just happily behave like you do anything u want.
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    it reminds me of a very senior member of the estab who was on official visit to a regional country. he embarassed us, thus, was banished to a distant country, where he died not too long ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by aeskywan View Post
    The point here is u are a NATIONAL ATHLETE WEARING THE NATIONAL COLORS AT A EVENT REPRESENTING SINGAPORE.... So you watch your behavior and don't do anything as shameful as this... to be caught in the same room. That in itself being in the same room says alot. Did they do anything or not. I don't know and wont speculate but tongues will wag among other athletes and officials of other countries of our discipline. What they want to do in their free time out of competition is their own issue. But when you wear the national colors at a international event, you don't just happily behave like you do anything u want.

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    Agreed, I don't know why people are going OT. Those who want to discuss about the athletes, please go start your own thread, thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmore View Post
    think you miss the point in this thread, entirely.

    this thread is about discussing the photography copyright issues rather then the athletes in question.

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    It's a diversionary tactic.

    We have moles and tactical soldiers planted in CS!

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