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Thread: Bukit Panjang Shooters -Part II-

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    someone changing to shoot landscape liao
    Beginners worries about cost, amaeturs worries about gear, pros worries about light hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingaConnect View Post
    i went up alone. At the burst of first fireworks, sudden heavy downpour. Lucky i got prepare, big big trash bag just cover the camera on tripod and take a dash down the bridge. Lucky camera still dry dry but others there are not so lucky. They was caught off guard and thing their cameras up lorry liao.
    i reach esplanade just before the 21gun. Notice weather not good. I went to fullerton. Went rain everyone ran to shelter at fullerton...saw feel oth photographer too...

    tdy more firework compare to last week...maybe next week go again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingaConnect View Post
    someone changing to shoot landscape liao
    where u get that pic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheerful88 View Post
    i reach esplanade just before the 21gun. Notice weather not good. I went to fullerton. Went rain everyone ran to shelter at fullerton...saw feel oth photographer too...

    tdy more firework compare to last week...maybe next week go again.
    Next wkend i will be in KL. Maybe the week after that. I want to get that photo

    Quote Originally Posted by cheerful88 View Post
    where u get that pic?
    From my camera of course
    Beginners worries about cost, amaeturs worries about gear, pros worries about light hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingaConnect View Post
    Next wkend i will be in KL. Maybe the week after that. I want to get that photo


    From my camera of course
    ya..forgot u gg KL...aft next week shld be NE3 follow by preview and actual day.

    Next week i go shoot firework...show u the pic hopefully weather not like tdy

    u wen shoot lalang wif him? any nice shots? the pic seems too green like no interesting subject leh

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    Have subject.. but lighting not interesting. It is a place that I will go again over several Weekends. :-}

    http://nghofei.multiply.com/photos/album/54#

    Last edited by Andrew Ng; 12th July 2009 at 12:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheerful88 View Post
    ya..forgot u gg KL...aft next week shld be NE3 follow by preview and actual day.

    Next week i go shoot firework...show u the pic hopefully weather not like tdy

    u wen shoot lalang wif him? any nice shots? the pic seems too green like no interesting subject leh
    This was the automatic photo it produces and i am happy with it. Too green coz there is a limitation an automatic function can produces.
    Beginners worries about cost, amaeturs worries about gear, pros worries about light hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ng View Post
    Have subject.. but lighting not interesting. It is a place that I will go again over several Weekends. :-}

    http://nghofei.multiply.com/photos/album/54#

    seen ur 3 pics...besides lighting, sorry, pic not interesting to me...like shooting bushes...u can further improve on the 3 pics...i seen something different fm u...
    just my opinion, u might not agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by SingaConnect View Post
    This was the automatic photo it produces and i am happy with it. Too green coz there is a limitation an automatic function can produces.
    he is the outstanding subject made ur photo interested! very serious photographer

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheerful88 View Post
    seen ur 3 pics...besides lighting, sorry, pic not interesting to me...like shooting bushes...u can further improve on the 3 pics...i seen something different fm u...
    just my opinion, u might not agreed



    he is the outstanding subject made ur photo interested! very serious photographer
    Yeah lor... I look and look and look... No light.. no interest. Definitely need more visits.

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    haha yeah interesting photo singaconnect. no main subject to shoot, andrew became your subject..

    Yesterday was at Night Museum shooting, then a Nikon guy beside me ask me a question.
    Your lens (70-200 F4L IS USM) can shoot at so dark meh..?
    Then i told him "Oh yes, why not? I bump up ISO to 6400."
    lol.. he was shocked, and i giggled abit.
    Can't blame him also, he prob doesn't know 70-200 F4L IS USM can focus as fast as 70-200 F2.8L IS USM
    http://klchua78.multiply.com/photos/...29/Night_Musem

    Anyway initially tried shooting with flash but realise all the nice bluish lighting became white even though i set flash to minimal.. then i forgo the flash n bump ISO to max since its kinda dim.
    Last edited by playplay; 12th July 2009 at 11:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playplay View Post
    Can't blame him also, he prob doesn't know 70-200 F4L IS USM can focus as fast as 70-200 F2.8L IS USM
    ??? What has focusing SPEED got to do with low light performance. Its the Aperture he is referring too bah... Nikon use bounce reflective mirror/ Prism for AF. Canon uses Sensor to AF? Higher ISO = Better and faster Focus???

    So far Nikon has not made its CMOS part of AF Operations.

    Not familiar with Canon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ng View Post
    ??? What has focusing SPEED got to do with low light performance. Its the Aperture he is referring too bah... Nikon use bounce reflective mirror/ Prism for AF. Canon uses Sensor to AF? Higher ISO = Better and faster Focus???

    So far Nikon has not made its CMOS part of AF Operations.

    Not familiar with Canon.
    i think he meant the lens can get the subject focus faster with high iso...compare to some lens, sometimes quite difficult to focus in low light...unless manual focus

    since do not have F2.8 lens, using F4 with higher iso quite good in low light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playplay View Post
    haha yeah interesting photo singaconnect. no main subject to shoot, andrew became your subject..

    Yesterday was at Night Museum shooting, then a Nikon guy beside me ask me a question.
    Your lens (70-200 F4L IS USM) can shoot at so dark meh..?
    Then i told him "Oh yes, why not? I bump up ISO to 6400."
    lol.. he was shocked, and i giggled abit.
    Can't blame him also, he prob doesn't know 70-200 F4L IS USM can focus as fast as 70-200 F2.8L IS USM
    http://klchua78.multiply.com/photos/...29/Night_Musem

    Anyway initially tried shooting with flash but realise all the nice bluish lighting became white even though i set flash to minimal.. then i forgo the flash n bump ISO to max since its kinda dim.
    Quote Originally Posted by cheerful88 View Post
    i think he meant the lens can get the subject focus faster with high iso...compare to some lens, sometimes quite difficult to focus in low light...unless manual focus

    since do not have F2.8 lens, using F4 with higher iso quite good in low light.
    New knowledge to me... So far I have not try high ISO in low light. At most ISO 800. Must try tonight if high ISO means faster AF. I notice low light ISO 800 AF still slow.

    Thanks!

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    high iso does not mean faster focussing speed. thus ISO has no relevance or what so ever to focusing speed.

    the focussing speed is determined by the focussing module in the camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Lim View Post
    high iso does not mean faster focussing speed. thus ISO has no relevance or what so ever to focusing speed.

    the focussing speed is determined by the focussing module in the camera.
    Yup. I always thought that was the case. Higher ISO = Faster/ Better Focusing.. does not link lei.

    Not sure about the Micro 4/3 systems without the Mirrors though if the sensor plays a role in the AF.

    Thanks Chris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by playplay View Post
    haha yeah interesting photo singaconnect. no main subject to shoot, andrew became your subject..

    Yesterday was at Night Museum shooting, then a Nikon guy beside me ask me a question.
    Your lens (70-200 F4L IS USM) can shoot at so dark meh..?
    Then i told him "Oh yes, why not? I bump up ISO to 6400."
    lol.. he was shocked, and i giggled abit.
    Can't blame him also, he prob doesn't know 70-200 F4L IS USM can focus as fast as 70-200 F2.8L IS USM
    http://klchua78.multiply.com/photos/...29/Night_Musem

    Anyway initially tried shooting with flash but realise all the nice bluish lighting became white even though i set flash to minimal.. then i forgo the flash n bump ISO to max since its kinda dim.
    Really argh. If i will be the guy beside u. I might laugh until peng
    Beginners worries about cost, amaeturs worries about gear, pros worries about light hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ng View Post
    Yup. I always thought that was the case. Higher ISO = Faster/ Better Focusing.. does not link lei.

    Not sure about the Micro 4/3 systems without the Mirrors though if the sensor plays a role in the AF.

    Thanks Chris!
    Bump ISO only help to allow more light go in, if more light goes in, then subject won't get blurred, of course also slightly easier to focus since more light goes in.
    Another factor also Canon trademark USM. Canon lens (70-200mm) have built in USM which helps to focus slightly faster and quieter than those without USM. Not too sure about Nikon, only know Nikon is VR which is equivalent to Canon IS.
    So with both function, why can't i shoot in low light since i have double advantage above..
    The F/2.8 is only 1 stop advantage in term of exposure and better bokeh.. thats all. But F/2.8 is can only go 3 stop lower shutterspeed, whereas F/4 can go 4 stop lower for Image Stabilising.

    http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...0&modelid=7345
    Last edited by playplay; 14th July 2009 at 12:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playplay View Post
    Bump ISO only help to allow more light go in, if more light goes in, then subject won't get blurred, of course also slightly easier to focus since more light goes in.

    The F/2.8 is only 1 stop advantage in term of exposure and better bokeh.. thats all. But F/2.8 is can only go 3 stop lower shutterspeed, whereas F/4 can go 4 stop lower for Image Stabilising.

    http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...0&modelid=7345
    I think you need to read up on SLR Construction.... Do you know what is a shutter curtain? I think there is a mirror up function for 5D. You know what is that for? I think 5D not a PnS... Unless you telling me you are shooting live mode most of the time where your 'senor' will measure the light...

    There is a science behind f/2.8 lens which I still advocate that if you can afford it. Buy it. There is more to it than just shutter speed advantage. Think low light, DOF, Vignett and HFD.

    Anyways... do you know what f/0.98, f/1, f/1.2, f/2.8...... f/32.... represents??? How does this translate to lens construction and why Olympus can make a 70~200mm (135 equivi) f/2 zoom lens....

    Happy researching.

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    Anyone interested to shoot sports? ie skateboarders @ Skatepark???
    Beginners worries about cost, amaeturs worries about gear, pros worries about light hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ng View Post
    I think you need to read up on SLR Construction.... Do you know what is a shutter curtain? I think there is a mirror up function for 5D. You know what is that for? I think 5D not a PnS... Unless you telling me you are shooting live mode most of the time where your 'senor' will measure the light...

    There is a science behind f/2.8 lens which I still advocate that if you can afford it. Buy it. There is more to it than just shutter speed advantage. Think low light, DOF, Vignett and HFD.

    Anyways... do you know what f/0.98, f/1, f/1.2, f/2.8...... f/32.... represents??? How does this translate to lens construction and why Olympus can make a 70~200mm (135 equivi) f/2 zoom lens....

    Happy researching.
    Ya i am aware of the mirror up. Its available in most of the Canon DSLR Camera.
    And for the F stop, yeah prob i shud read up more to understand in details.
    Is there anymore F1 lens in the market?

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