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Thread: Bukit Panjang Shooters -Part II-

  1. #761

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheerful88 View Post
    tot 70-300 not L lens??
    Sorry.... ah.. not familiar with Canon System.. referring to this lens...only one with green band... I think...

    http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...0&modelid=9996

  2. #762

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheerful88 View Post
    shooting skill can learn fm anyone...doesn't matter what cam that person using....wat u want to learn...hopefully can help u a bit since i also beginners
    u can always check this thread...outing always last min...
    Cheerful88... very modest.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Winson123 View Post
    next week sat got any outing for shooting ??....
    Have tripod???

  3. #763

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    This will be the next Confirm Event I will be going. See you people there!

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showt...13#post5197813

    Cheers!

  4. #764

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ng View Post
    This will be the next Confirm Event I will be going. See you people there!

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showt...13#post5197813

    Cheers!
    Thats 1 shot 1 kill competition.
    Compulsory must shoot tourist?

    Btw whose going other than you?
    Haha very challenging competition but 1 shot 1 kill dunno muz shoot how many to get it.
    Last edited by playplay; 21st June 2009 at 08:41 AM.

  5. #765

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ng View Post
    Canon ... Can't help ... 1 things I notice. Very similar incidence for amongst Canon.

    2 Guys (40D + 70~200L, 40D + 70~300L) Shoot the same subject. 70~200 picture come out.. Wah! So Vibrant... So Blue..!!! 70~300L Come out... Like coffee had just spilled over the picture... Yuks!

    200 say 'Must buy f/2.8 else no vibrant colour'... 300 say.. "200, your colour so fake! Not Natural.'

    70~300 come ask me for help with his colours ... I try and try and try... Give Up! ... I use Nikon.. can't help.

    I say Winson.. find a Canon user to shoot with you. Better able to handle the technical aspect.

    However.. I learnt 1 thing today... For Nikon to get that disgusting Vibrant Canon Blue.. Must use Vivid+ Setting + Tokina Lens + CPL or GND ... The number of Kachang needed to create that kind of colour in the camera... Haiz!
    Yeah 70-200L is a good lens.
    The later version has even slightly better lens quality then earlier version which i saw from some forum.
    Got 70-300L meh? Its not a L lens. Poor quality and colors for that range. Either get a 55-250mm for 1.6x crop or 70-200mm for 1.6x or FF.


    Hey andrew, any idea in dim light, what shutter speed must i use to capture sports action? No flash allowed.
    i set to ISO 1600 with 1/200 still not enough?
    i guess i saw the answer from magazine. Should be ard 1/1000 or 1/2000.
    Last edited by playplay; 21st June 2009 at 10:00 AM.

  6. #766

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    Quote Originally Posted by playplay View Post
    Yeah 70-200L is a good lens.
    The later version has even slightly better lens quality then earlier version which i saw from some forum.
    Got 70-300L meh? Its not a L lens. Poor quality and colors for that range. Either get a 55-250mm for 1.6x crop or 70-200mm for 1.6x or FF.


    Hey andrew, any idea in dim light, what shutter speed must i use to capture sports action? No flash allowed.
    i set to ISO 1600 with 1/200 still not enough?
    i guess i saw the answer from magazine. Should be ard 1/1000 or 1/2000.
    You ask question and give answer yourself? ???

    1/1000~1/2000... use to freeze horse, Ferrari mainly... under good light condition. Singapore F1 and all those night soccer matches are super bright. So... that is not a low light.

    Depends on what you hope to achieve with the amount of Available light. That includes your flash.

    Most of my sports pic I use my $100 70~300 f/4~5.6 plastic lens and my $280 10 Year old 28~105mm f/3.5~4.5 lens (I wish Nikon would make a 24~105 f/4... ).. SO... I don't have fantastic sports pic. I think my sports pic will make it to Town News Letter.. Not the press. HAHAHA! Saving to buy the 80~400 VR!!!

    I think all done between 1/5 ~ 1/320 Sec 1/640 more than enough to freeze soccer player. If you want to pan people and have their face sharp while their legs and arms are still in motion.. you need to do some calculation in your head...

    Your question I cannot answer... because..

    1. I don't know what you hope to achieve.
    2. You use canon and the last time I check with your 5DMK II... Exposure seems way below Nikon and we over compensate up to 1 stop....

    Maybe some reference would help...My style - to show motion and/or emotion in sports. :-}

    http://nghofei.multiply.com/photos/album/51
    (Will remove in 3 days...)

    My Aim for Good Sports Pic! References

    http://www.nikkor.com/e/kaneko.htm
    http://www.nikkor.com/e/watanabe.htm
    http://www.bobmartin.com/bob1.html
    http://www.timandrew.co.uk/

    I play around with shutter speed and flash a lot. Love to do panning.

    Anyway.. sports photography is a BIG Thing! Big and Long glass would help. VR/ IS/ OS/ VC are just as important!

    Cheers!

  7. #767

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    Quote Originally Posted by playplay View Post
    Thats 1 shot 1 kill competition.
    Compulsory must shoot tourist?

    Btw whose going other than you?
    Haha very challenging competition but 1 shot 1 kill dunno muz shoot how many to get it.
    Only me.. so far... :-] Machine gun.. sniper rifle.. as long as nab the prize.. why bother. Its for competition.. not title... :-}

  8. #768

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    What a beautiful evening. :-}

    http://nghofei.multiply.com/photos/album/15#107

    I love Segar.
    Last edited by Andrew Ng; 21st June 2009 at 09:53 PM.

  9. #769

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ng View Post
    Only me.. so far... :-] Machine gun.. sniper rifle.. as long as nab the prize.. why bother. Its for competition.. not title... :-}
    Yeah true..
    Sniper = camp and prepare to shoot?
    Machine Gun = Aim and do burst shot?

    Aiyo you saw my multiply. the photo that i commented.
    In dim light and to capture a jump, i wanna full body to be sharp (No flash allowed)
    Its already at 1/200 with ISO 800. I guess if i really wanna freeze then i gotta hit 3200 or 6400 ISO with higher shutter speed.
    Looks like alot of people will fail for indoor shoot since the light were so dim and the dancers movement were fast.

    Anyway good thing is i learn something again
    Last edited by playplay; 21st June 2009 at 10:52 PM.

  10. #770

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    Quote Originally Posted by playplay View Post
    Yeah true..
    Sniper = camp and prepare to shoot?
    Machine Gun = Aim and do burst shot?

    Aiyo you saw my multiply. the photo that i commented.
    In dim light and to capture a jump, i wanna full body to be sharp (No flash allowed)
    Its already at 1/200 with ISO 800. I guess if i really wanna freeze then i gotta hit 3200 or 6400 ISO with higher shutter speed.
    Looks like alot of people will fail for indoor shoot since the light were so dim and the dancers movement were fast.

    Anyway good thing is i learn something again
    There is something call f/2.8 + IS/ VR + ISO 800 + 1/80 and Mono pod... Sure can get a picture daytime indoor. The thing about shooting dance is to anticipate and observe for the moment.

    That is why I say.. Get a IS/ VR/ OS lens... unless old school people like me... Shoot with 17~35mm, 1/30s to prevent cam shake and bright enough background. Else the 50mm, 85mm f/1.8 is good enough. Macro lens also can. :-} That is why I NEVER Buy 24~70mm. Prefer Wide, fast standard/ telephoto Primes for indoors. I can keep to ISO 400. Just need the correct lens/ equipment for the correct job. Not Higher ISO... :-}
    Last edited by Andrew Ng; 21st June 2009 at 11:39 PM.

  11. #771

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    Quote Originally Posted by playplay View Post
    Yeah true..
    Sniper = camp and prepare to shoot?
    Machine Gun = Aim and do burst shot?

    Aiyo you saw my multiply. the photo that i commented.
    In dim light and to capture a jump, i wanna full body to be sharp (No flash allowed)
    Its already at 1/200 with ISO 800. I guess if i really wanna freeze then i gotta hit 3200 or 6400 ISO with higher shutter speed.
    Looks like alot of people will fail for indoor shoot since the light were so dim and the dancers movement were fast.

    Anyway good thing is i learn something again
    tot ur 5D no prob with high iso

  12. #772

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    Yeah no money to buy lens now. Most FF canon zoom lens at low focal length doesn't come with IS.
    24-70mm is a good lens with F/2.8 although no IS also.
    Btw i shot using F3.2 ISO 800 with 1/250 shutter speed, still blur... hai.. sad thing. Indoor dim light w/o flash really need big aperture with high shutter speed. And i only saw 1 or 2 guys using big aperture lens.
    Anyway when the results out, i won't be surprised to see most shots are outdoor, prob none indoor shot despite they got so many indoor dance. i will be very curious and surprise if there is someone who can capture good indoor shots under dim light without flash.


    Cheerful88: Yeah no problem for ISO 6400 provided you set to high ISO Noise Reduction ON and don't crop.
    It has huge MP to crop thats why most of the noise doesnt show at 1600. As usual lar, too high ISO = details and contrast lost although the grainy will be reduced.

  13. #773

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ng View Post
    Cheerful88... very modest.....



    Have tripod???
    got...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ng View Post
    Hi Hi! Finally!!! Another Nikon!!!

    Maybe should organise a Bukit Panjang People Shoot out!

    Haha!

    I leave this to SingaConnect. :-}
    so fast shoot arrow to me liao

    Quote Originally Posted by cheerful88 View Post
    dun think gg tonight...i think i'll go during weekdays...wanna join me??
    I dun think i gg for the sg river festival again. Abit disappointed. But in the end, was quite happy as i saw the fireworks as part of the national day practice on that day.
    Beginners worries about cost, amaeturs worries about gear, pros worries about light hahaha

  15. #775

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    Quote Originally Posted by playplay View Post
    Yeah no money to buy lens now. Most FF canon zoom lens at low focal length doesn't come with IS.
    50mm f/1.8... cheap and good. $170+/- ??? Used one also ok?

    FF - 16~35mm need 1/30s... 24~70mm need 1/60s.... still need IS??? I told my friend before... either smoker, weak arms or have arm injury/ medical background... else.. any 'dick' can hand hold stable at this speed.

    I know a fellow shooter. smokes. Can't even get sharp picture with 18mm at 1/80s....

    Do more push ups. Muhahhaa! :-}

  16. #776

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingaConnect View Post
    so fast shoot arrow to me liao



    I dun think i gg for the sg river festival again. Abit disappointed. But in the end, was quite happy as i saw the fireworks as part of the national day practice on that day.
    din know last sat hv fireworks...
    i din shoot for 2 weekend...last weekend when shopping...hehehe
    i saw some sg river fest pictures...decided not gg there liao.
    thinking of gg to marina this sat...look see look see hoping to see some NDP rehersal...anyone interested?

  17. #777

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    Marina Bay? Barrage? Will be in Town area.. 'Collect Eye the City' Book. Update me. :-}

    Cheers!

  18. #778

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    this sat? or next weekend?
    going on cc short jb tour this sat. hope can snap abit of travel photography

  19. #779

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    Quote Originally Posted by playplay View Post
    this sat? or next weekend?
    going on cc short jb tour this sat. hope can snap abit of travel photography
    Oh. Which part of Malaysia? Pengerang? Love the Lalangs...

  20. #780

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    Nah.. just nearby JB only. Not so far away fr SG.
    This Sat also got some cosplay and some other events happening at Taka.. Seems interesting too, but too bad i can't go.

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