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    ('Mengalir Lembut') means 'A Soft Gentle Flow' in Malay. Photo taken at Changi CarPark Six.

    I will like feedback on the composition. I have composed the
    picture this way because I want to show the viewers that the
    direction of the water is flowing to the open sea, during sunrise.
    At the same time i make it look as the stream of water is flowing
    from the right to center. I wonder if it tells some story to you.

    Another feedback needed is the exposure. I purposely done this
    image underexposed. Reason being, you can't have the whole image
    to be lighted up as the sun haven't yet rise. That explains the
    underexposed waters from nowhere on the bottom. So i feel kind
    of unsure if i'm wrong as alot of my friends said that it should be
    an overall well exposed photo rather than dark like this.

    The only thing that the picture can be better is, might be the weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hairyharry View Post
    At the same time i make it look as the stream of water is flowing
    from the right to center.
    What was the purpose in portraying this?
    The exposure was okay for me but the vignette is too heavy.

    Quote Originally Posted by hairyharry View Post
    The only thing that the picture can be better is, might be the weather.
    Are you saying that ... there is nothing to improve on and the only flaw in this image was a natural cause?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PyeeL View Post
    What was the purpose in portraying this?
    The exposure was okay for me but the vignette is too heavy.

    Are you saying that ... there is nothing to improve on and the only flaw in this image was a natural cause?
    thaks for the comments. the whole purpose of this is to know and for
    me to learn from you guys if i'm in the wrong or right. not as in this one
    the exposyre was okay kind. what i wanted to know is, if the underexposed
    portion shows or makes sense, or should it be brightened up. vignette
    caused by my tianya filters. i stacked 2 gnds. not from the PS. i still
    don't quite know where is the proper line for the filter. LEE is just too
    expensive for me.




    don't think that way. i'm just following the guidelines. i wonder what
    can be improved on and what more to add to this composition. i'm
    not sure what is relevant, thats why i said, it might be the weatehr.
    i apologise if i gave you the wrong thinking.

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    dun mind...i edit it abit...will take it down if u dun like


    i prefer a tighter crop
    and slightly more light


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    i love your exposure which portrays the mood and the ambience at that point of time.
    composition wise its good too. overall the pic is good!

    just my 2cents. afterall, everyone's got their own style and its not easy to please everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsoyabean View Post
    dun mind...i edit it abit...will take it down if u dun like


    i prefer a tighter crop
    and slightly more light

    while this crop is better in some sense (still feels odd though i can't pin point exactly what).. i like the muted colours of the original version more.. relates more to the theme that threadstarter had in mind..

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    Since the focus is on the water, I wonder if it will look better if there is less sky and the water lighter exposed.
    The sky captures more of my attention than the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsoyabean View Post
    dun mind...i edit it abit...will take it down if u dun like

    i prefer a tighter crop
    and slightly more light

    I don't mind actually (: yeah like what ssping83 said, the title
    given for this photo is 'soft gentle flow'. So it kind of like not
    right to crop it, though it helps in removing its vignet. Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by myladypeace View Post
    i love your exposure which portrays the mood and the ambience at that point of time.
    composition wise its good too. overall the pic is good!

    just my 2cents. afterall, everyone's got their own style and its not easy to please everyone.
    "Everyone's got their own style and its not easy to please everyone" ,
    my kind of thinking on this line. (: so at least this photo really does
    work for someone. Thanks you MLP! (:


    Quote Originally Posted by ssping83 View Post
    while this crop is better in some sense (still feels odd though i can't pin point exactly what).. i like the muted colours of the original version more.. relates more to the theme that threadstarter had in mind..
    same sentiments. maybe a brighter and more exposed on the bottom part
    without any cropping done? Hmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanarius View Post
    Since the focus is on the water, I wonder if it will look better if there is less sky and the water lighter exposed.
    The sky captures more of my attention than the water.
    I see i see. Will this image look good if i say i'll crop it
    and make it into a pano crop kind? hmmm. you've got
    a point there. and thanks for your suggestion!

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    Default Re: Mengalir Lembut

    I think the composition is fine. The way the light fall off leads to a black bottom is good, but perhaps a slightly tighter crop to give just slightly less negative space, without compromising on the light fall off will work better.

    However, exposure-wise, a little bit more (just a third or two-thirds of a stop) will give the colours more punch. Definitely slightly underexposed will still work, but just a bit more to bring out the colours.

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    Exposure wise, it's fine. If you up the exposure further, the sky would be overblown and would not display the colors and tones.

    Composition wise, like ryanarius said, the 'water surface' should be given more weight. If the water flow could be directed to the direction of the sunrise, could be better.

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    Default Re: Mengalir Lembut

    bro, honestly speaking, i don't like your version in clubsnap.. prefer it in bigger format.. like the one u posted in your blog...

    actually its nice overall... The colour is really suitable for the mood u're to trying portray...

    can't really judge with this picture cause i feel that the bigger version is better.

    maybe you should show the other bros the bigger size...
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    I actually really like the tones and textures in the original; I find it very apt. By creating negative space around the key features of the image it drew my attention to those key features, which are beautiful by the way.

    The only gripe I have is the positioning of the clouds, which technically you can't control, but via decisive composition it can still be done. Right now, the clouds(esp. the patch on the right) are neither in, nor out, which gives me the feeling that not enough attention was given to them when the photo was captured. For a more wholistic capture as much attention must be paid to the background as the foreground, and also the space in between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoned View Post
    I actually really like the tones and textures in the original; I find it very apt. By creating negative space around the key features of the image it drew my attention to those key features, which are beautiful by the way.
    I have been looking at this image and reading up all other replies, and have yet to reply, or rather I find that there's not much to, no need to, even. Its a good enough image captured, and the feel is there, complimenting the title. I agree so much with the above quote.

    Any cropping done, as shown, imho, has not enhanced the composition, in fact, it aint broken, so why fix it? Crop the top, and you'll miss the blue sky. Crop the foreground, you'll see less of the smooth flow. Crop either side, will make it less balanced.

    Maybe, just maybe you could have gone lower.... much lower nearer to the ground. Its just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheguthamrin View Post
    I have been looking at this image and reading up all other replies, and have yet to reply, or rather I find that there's not much to, no need to, even. Its a good enough image captured, and the feel is there, complimenting the title. I agree so much with the above quote.

    Any cropping done, as shown, imho, has not enhanced the composition, in fact, it aint broken, so why fix it? Crop the top, and you'll miss the blue sky. Crop the foreground, you'll see less of the smooth flow. Crop either side, will make it less balanced.

    Maybe, just maybe you could have gone lower.... much lower nearer to the ground. Its just a thought.
    thanks all for your thoughts. i took them seriously and at the same
    time i learnt something. chegu, it didnt strucked my mind on going
    for lower angle at that point of time. idk why. thanks again for the
    critiques.

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    i will have liked it with less sky.. having half the sky cropped out.. still leavin the essential beauty of the sky intact.. as your title suggests, its pretty mcuh more of the water.. and the beauty of the water ripples is more then enough for me to make it work. =) but as cheguthamrin truly said, why fix something that aint broken. your picture works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luntut View Post
    i will have liked it with less sky.. having half the sky cropped out.. still leavin the essential beauty of the sky intact.. as your title suggests, its pretty mcuh more of the water.. and the beauty of the water ripples is more then enough for me to make it work. =) but as cheguthamrin truly said, why fix something that aint broken. your picture works.
    (: hmmm i just tried. it looks very 'pano cropped' kind.
    and the pano crpo kind don't really give out the best
    for the photo. thanks for the kind help.

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