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    Quote Originally Posted by Long Thai Bean View Post
    NO ... they cannot show the pictures of themselves with the xmm .... less the wife,girlfriend or families find out what they are doing on the weekend morning .... then they will be banned from shooting xmm .... there won't be enough GWC to support these 24 photog with 6 model shoots ....

    this would be disasterous headlines ....

    "Sudden drop in GWC forces shoot organisers out of weekend business ... Models complain that business has been slow ..."

    we must think ... and be considerate in times of recession ....



    JOKE mode OFF .....
    Good.

    GWC eradication project.
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    Actually i have nothing against that. They shoot their way, you shoot yours, i shoot mine. Just that sometimes i buay tahan their props. Guns too small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liarliar View Post
    Actually i have nothing against that. They shoot their way, you shoot yours, i shoot mine. Just that sometimes i buay tahan their props. Guns too small.
    Well, I don't give a flying hoot what and how they shoot.

    However, without them, the camera equipment market will definitely take a hit, and that is good news for the "real" artists.

    Without them, the "xmm" meat market will die. Equilibrium will be restore and I can go back shooting for trades.

    They will inevitably come back, it's nature. However, then we just have to move on to chapter 2.
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    Default Re: WT**** things are getting bad, but I really did not realise, it's that bad!!!

    pardon me but what the heck is a GWC?
    chicken fight!

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    Default Re: WT**** things are getting bad, but I really did not realise, it's that bad!!!

    GWC = Guys With Cameras

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    Default Re: WT**** things are getting bad, but I really did not realise, it's that bad!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by luna_sea83 View Post
    GWC = Guys With Cameras
    ahhhh. so I see.

    I take it, from the tone of the whole conversation in this thread, that it's used as a rather derogatory term?
    chicken fight!

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    it is not photography, it is charity

    photographers who sign up for such shoot are wasting time & money, with 20+ photographers & 4 models in 2hrs ? how are u guys going to learn ?

    DEAR SHOOTERS ! WAKE UP !

    i will rather pay more to shoot better, make my shutter count worth the time & money
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    Quote Originally Posted by terryansimon View Post
    ahhhh. so I see.

    I take it, from the tone of the whole conversation in this thread, that it's used as a rather derogatory term?
    Yup.

    If you want to be absolutely fair though, while it's true that many of the photos aren't too good, there are still a few good to great photos from such shoots. It's all in the hands of the photographer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlteredVision View Post
    Yup.

    If you want to be absolutely fair though, while it's true that many of the photos aren't too good, there are still a few good to great photos from such shoots. It's all in the hands of the photographer.
    Great photos? From a 15 photographers 5 models mass orgy shoot? Show me one example!
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    My opinion of such photos in general probably isn't much higher than yours. And if I could show you an example, more people would have a better opinion of such shoots. It wasn't shot by me, and I didn't see it in this forum. Saw it on a personal laptop.

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    we must all learn the fine art of shooting.

    to take part in mass org shoot, one must be able to shoot without shooting. the most impt mission is to get her hp number

    the spirit of gwc must live on..



    ok, to be fair, i will always pick out the one who is less packed with a group of wolves. i will have more time to style her, talk to her and shoot her one to one. it is natural the bees will follow the sweetest honey; thats when the frustrations come when no one bothers to take turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlteredVision View Post
    My opinion of such photos in general probably isn't much higher than yours. And if I could show you an example, more people would have a better opinion of such shoots. It wasn't shot by me, and I didn't see it in this forum. Saw it on a personal laptop.
    Good that you were able to witness something more palatable. However, for the rest of us, we can only base our opinions and comments on what we see here. And we we are facing, in general, is not a pretty sight.

    Once again, the overall standard has gone so low that the better photographers, the artists, those who cared, are not posting.

    Isn't that the case? Sad.

    Quote Originally Posted by contaxable View Post
    we must all learn the fine art of shooting.

    to take part in mass org shoot, one must be able to shoot without shooting. the most impt mission is to get her hp number

    the spirit of gwc must live on..



    ok, to be fair, i will always pick out the one who is less packed with a group of wolves. i will have more time to style her, talk to her and shoot her one to one. it is natural the bees will follow the sweetest honey; thats when the frustrations come when no one bothers to take turn.
    3 years a go, a friend of mine was organizing a shoot and I was helping him run the actual shoot. 1 model, 6 photographers.

    The rule is simple. 30 minutes set, each photographers has 1x5 minutes slots to work directly with the model, one on one, having 100% of the model's attention. The rest, may shoot, but must remain behind the photographer.

    I thought that was brilliant.

    How wrong was I. Maybe we need a test to identify GWCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    How wrong was I. Maybe we need a test to identify GWCs.
    the saliva test is the best test for this purpose.

    just put a xmm in the middle, and do act cute poses, have the row of people you wish to test to stand in place.

    the positions with saliva stains in front of them are the gwcs.

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    Default Re: WT**** things are getting bad, but I really did not realise, it's that bad!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    3 years a go, a friend of mine was organizing a shoot and I was helping him run the actual shoot. 1 model, 6 photographers.

    The rule is simple. 30 minutes set, each photographers has 2x5 minutes slots to work directly with the model, one on one, having 100% of the model's attention. The rest, may shoot, but must remain behind the photographer.

    I thought that was brilliant.

    How wrong was I. Maybe we need a test to identify GWCs.
    If there were a litmus test for a GWC, I will definitely second that approach. The backlash here is if GWCs cry blue murder over discrimination. Not that it really bothers me, but soon GWCs will blend in with the legit shooters and so the story goes on.

    Not too sure about this, so I stand to be corrected. At this time, it is also a potential flame bait. Insofar as GWCs are concerned, as it is they seem to be attending shoots that are on the less expensive side. But for shoots like what Modelinn is doing, it seems that they tend to move away from those types.

    While I do not think that it is a price factor per se, the thing is do GWCs tend to only look at models who are PYTs or SYTs? Or basically, they will shoot anything in a skirt? What exactly is the psyche of a GWC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scandal599 View Post
    While I do not think that it is a price factor per se, the thing is do GWCs tend to only look at models who are PYTs or SYTs? Or basically, they will shoot anything in a skirt? What exactly is the psyche of a GWC?


    why would you not think it is the price factor?

    don't ever forget, quantity over quality. for one significantly better shot, they can participate in 3 or 4 less well organised shots.. can nosebleed more, can ask for numbers better, since the models less professional. cannot pose, makeup horrible, concept weak, never mind. most importantly is can grind the testosterone wheel and work their technique out. you judge for yourself!

    and all this is blanket covered under the pretext of relaxation and personal choice.

    it's a free market, no doubt! but just as you have the freedom to choose, anyone else has the freedom to think what they will think of your actions.
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    Why no guy or male models? I want a photoshoot like that

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    Default Re: WT**** things are getting bad, but I really did not realise, it's that bad!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    the saliva test is the best test for this purpose.

    just put a xmm in the middle, and do act cute poses, have the row of people you wish to test to stand in place.

    the positions with saliva stains in front of them are the gwcs.
    Piangz...then testers need to provide bibs.

    Or get buckets. The people who has the most saliva measured...pass/fail as a GWC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scandal599 View Post
    Piangz...then testers need to provide bibs.

    Or get buckets. The people who has the most saliva measured...pass/fail as a GWC?
    an alternative method is to have the same thing, but to save the trouble of bibs or newspapers on the floor to absorb the appreciation fluid..

    just have the xmm flick her hair for a few minutes, and bat her fake eyelashes and blow kisses in the air. she will then move to another location.

    the ones that follow her off with blank, zombie-like eyes are the gwcs.

    to find them, all one needs to do is follow the saliva stains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liarliar View Post
    Why no guy or male models? I want a photoshoot like that
    that shoot, for sure, no GWCs wills sign up for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    that shoot, for sure, no GWCs wills sign up for.
    maybe we might see another emerging trend if you organise such shoots

    the MMWCs

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