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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy888 View Post
    Not in the short run. It is not his fault. He inherited the dodo from Bush. The roots are so deep after so long .... how can US just pull out? Not without a blood bath. The two main islamic fundamental groups are not going to be friends with each other in Iraq. Iran on the side along with a few other neighbouring countries are eyeing the oil. Irag is sitting on 30% of the oil to come out of middle east. It's not just US is looking at that oil all these time...alot are.

    The US people are tired and all they want is to get all their sons and daughters out... they are too tired of the whole media circus all these days. So the so call "surge" and the so called victory and death of Saddam is wearing thin. So even if there is a blood bath..they just don't want it to be from another American soldier.

    So can he get the total redrawal? no way. To be diplomatic and not risk a blood bath that might taint his chance for a second term...he will dance around it and yes I am sure he will have to try to be seen doing something about it. He is trying to divert attention back to Afghanistan...and that mean adding troops not taking back. Historical, the middle east is a hot bed of religious problems and what have you. Once you dip your hand into it...you are part of it like it or not. Terrorism is here to stay. Once time was just confine to just the middle east..but it has broken containment..it is now world wide. It is totally out of control...so what you want to do now? What is Obama going to do? It is not just about him but how about the other countries and govt agencies? Pandora Box is open.

    It will take not oly a clever but a very brave man to control the situation now. It is not a role for the meek. That is the only way. It is not about us, the people of the world to stop this as we are the the one with the fanatical bent. And even those who can, they are not going to as it will mean ripping into their own belief system too. Just look at it this way, some dutch press make some caricature of the prophet..and what happens? Millions of dollar in damage to building..etc and what was it?...50 people would killed over it. And even the not extreme religious zealots was up in arms. But when the 911 took place .... and when it was found it was done by some radical islamic group...notice how quiet it was with the outcry. Their belief system was put in jeopardyb worst then the caricature...but how much protest, burning of building or people was killed? Nada!!!. Zip. Zero. I can name you even more example but you get the picture. In any case this is not something exclusive to islamic extremist.. it happens with other popular religious groups too. Google it. Open the mind.

    So....can Obama really save the day? No...not even with two terms in office but I think he would be able to come up with better ways to contain the situation I would think but as I say he has to make very realistic and very unpopular decision to get that to happen. It will involve blood spilling. Well that is how I see it lah.


    How you think Saddam managed to keep control over everyone in Iraq. It is with an iron fist. We might hate him for it but the problem was contained within his own country. Sure he has wars with his neighbours every so often but that is historical. So when you take him out of the picture...all the problems he bottle up comes out to the front. The USA and world use humanitarian methods to solve their problems. Sure it help to keep the GOOD citizen to see others using humane means to solve problem but the radical are not.. they are still using violent and religion to get their way. How you want to kill that if you don't want to fight fire with fire? Complicated and alot of headache over there.

    AND it is with all these distraction with the war on terrorism that everyone in the US while caught with their pants down when they found out their own corporations are deceiving them and rack in too much money for themselves, banking regulations are not followed, false declaration of earning...etc. The list is still continuing to come forth and spread out to the rest of the worst where it effect other greedy corporations and CEOs. And...here we are today....heheh...
    So your short answer is: "No."?



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    Default Re: Bad signs at a happy occasion? 26th Jan

    Quote Originally Posted by scandal599 View Post
    As they said, if life throws you lemons, make lemonade.
    If life throws you a woman, you make babies?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Ice View Post
    On January 26th two significant events will happen.:
    1. The end of the rat year and in comes the Ox year.
    2. An annular solar eclipse lasting a grand total of 7m54s will happen.

    Is this an ominous sign for more bad times?

    Financially, they say we have seen the worst of the crisis in the final quarter of 2008 and everything should start looking up (as long as we spend and the banks allow money to be borrowed)

    Historically many cultures saw eclipses as signs for bad times ahead.

    In Chinese mythology, a celestial dragon is devouring the sun and so the people used to bang drums, pots or anything that made a loud sound to frighten the dragon away.

    In the third series of heroes, all the heroes lost their powers.

    What do you think will happen?
    Oxes are borned towork and toil in the field. So the year of the ox symbolizes hardshipe prior to athe harvest. I dn't know about TS but who on earth said that the worst is over at end 2008? We spend but spend wisely. Not all can spend like some others. If banks allow money to be borred without checking the client's financial abilities more bad debts more banks will go burst. Forget that voodoo **** about eclipse as bad omen. Its a scientific fact. If a dragon were able to devour the sun no shouting and music nor cacophony can scare that SOB away. As foro heroes and heroines, sorry i am flesh and blood.

    What do we think will happen? It has happened and is happening. We have been in recession all along. So what's the bad news?
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    The fear of the eclipse stemmed from ancient humankind inability to understand what was going on. That it is an "omnious sign" is utter rubbish. Has anyone conducted any statistical study of "bad things" that happen during solar eclipses? In this day and age, superstition ought to be eradicated.

    And that also applies to astrology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by synapseman View Post
    Has anyone conducted any statistical study of "bad things" that happen during solar eclipses?
    sshh wuffruff will start another poll

    In this day and age, superstition ought to be eradicated.

    And that also applies to astrology.
    hmm superstition is deep rooted into our society.....the year of the Ox will bring.....
    ....and then there are the star signs....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    If life throws you a woman, you make babies?

    yeah...capitalise on gahmen's call. Have more babies...otherwise ageing population.

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    Default Re: Bad signs at a happy occasion? 26th Jan

    ladyice, are you like 50 yrs old?
    Objection !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives View Post
    ladyice, are you like 50 yrs old?
    No - older....older than yr nanny

    .....now let me see young man. When I was a lass in the great depression of the 1930s, things were really bad.....worst than it is now. The only remedy to kick start the economy was war. Alternatively get the super rich to put their money stash back into the economy....
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    Default Re: Bad signs at a happy occasion? 26th Jan

    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    So your short answer is: "No."?



    of course lah...but some grandfather stories must be told mah...if not sure got some ppl ask..so why wait time when I can hit while the iron is hot. Plus I have to go sleep mah..so how to answer? So answer earlier so got explanation as to my stand before I wake....

    Now I am awake...I answer you lah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Ice View Post
    No - older....older than yr nanny

    .....now let me see young man. When I was a lass in the great depression of the 1930s, things were really bad.....worst than it is now. The only remedy to kick start the economy was war. Alternatively get the super rich to put their money stash back into the economy....
    Aunty Ice... I knoe you old but didn't knoe you tat old.

    No wonder you concern about dragon eating up ox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYRN View Post
    Aunty Ice... I knoe you old but didn't knoe you tat old.

    No wonder you concern about dragon eating up ox.
    oh yes - it's amazing what plastic surgery and botox injections can do.....

    you weren't even a thought in your mother's mother's mother's head.
    feel free to call me nana

    and I certainly like yr description of event....

    wonder if history will repeat itself (just for speculation)?
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    Default Re: Bad signs at a happy occasion? 26th Jan

    2009 and the moon still controls day-to-day happenings on earth? The Horror! Thought those stuff ended 5 centuries ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theveed View Post
    2009 and the moon still controls day-to-day happenings on earth? The Horror! Thought those stuff ended 5 centuries ago.
    why? the moon certainly has control over daily happenings due to its gravitational pull

    - tides
    - volcanoes are most likely to erupt with a full moon
    - and I know of women affected by the full moon.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jOhO View Post
    power analogy!!
    Hahaha...

    too much left over from wedding "customs"...etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Ice View Post
    why? the moon certainly has control over daily happenings due to its gravitational pull

    - tides
    - volcanoes are most likely to erupt with a full moon
    - and I know of women affected by the full moon.....
    dun worri also... cuz we knoe the moon is drifting further away each moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Ice View Post
    oh yes - it's amazing what plastic surgery and botox injections can do.....

    you weren't even a thought in your mother's mother's mother's head.
    feel free to call me nana

    and I certainly like yr description of event....

    wonder if history will repeat itself (just for speculation)?
    no wonder you even worri about moon...

    no need to call nana... Aunti Ice can liao.... got Ice-cream or not?
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    Default Re: Bad signs at a happy occasion? 26th Jan

    An annular solar eclipse lasting a grand total of 7m54s will happen
    Does that means we will lose our powers ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapienz View Post
    Does that means we will lose our powers ?
    yes - what are your powers
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYRN View Post
    no wonder you even worri about moon...

    no need to call nana... Aunti Ice can liao.... got Ice-cream or not?
    nana is shorter...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Ice View Post
    nana is shorter...
    later I get confused with a xmm moller by the same name... better not.
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