There is a clear difference between sharing a good/bad experience sensibly so that everyone takes something away from the thread, it is another thing altogether to come to CS to KPKB ... and the same thing happens again.. and the KPKB starts again... that's just a waste of everyone's time to read it.
For those who have checked, it pays to explain in more detail what happened and why, otherwise the reader may (naturally) conclude the worst of the person posting.
I sometimes wonder if some of the photographers who get stopped deserve what they get. I mean, it can't be the case that everyone who stops a photographer is rude or unreasonable, surely it is a 2 way street. And surely legal or not legal is not the be all and end all, common sense and sensitivity to others' concerns must surely come into the picture?
You can take photos here .... provided u print this out at take it with you in case u are asked to leave...
If you're telling it like it is, then you are tarring everyone in the same broad brush that you denied in the next part of that sentence.
I guess if you do a search, you may be able to find the "details" that you are looking for. After all, those who have checked it out before, say 3 years ago and posted the details then, are not inclined to repeat the details again and again when these common threads are posted.
Sometimes, you also need to experience these "requests" then you can judge for yourself if photographers asked for it
I am not suggesting that everyone is like that. I am saying there are *some*, and it is self-evident from their posts. I have read thru the whole thread and other similar threads. I certainly do not intend to belittle the meaningful comments made by you and others who have posted on this and similar threads. in fact you guys shoudl be given an award for explaining the same darn few things time and again.
All I am saying here, is that there is alot of inane KPKB on these threads. Frankly it is (to me at least) irritating to read/see it again and again just so you can get to the more informative parts of the thread. It's like how you need to eat a lot of ice kachang to get at the atap chee, just that ice kachang nicer. It also makes me wonder (once again, entirely subjective) why some of these chaps don't do a search. And I get this feeling that a dogged insistence on what is a photographer's "right" and what is "legal" for a security guard / waiter / etc to do or not do, is precisely the wrong approach. When everything is boiled down so quickly (or so it seems to me) to stark black and white "You/I can" and "You/I cannot" answers, where is the graciousness? Leaving aside the security guard / waiter / etc, is a photographer in such cases just an ugly Singaporean with a big camera 9 out of 10 times? If I am accused of tarring this particularly sub-set of photographers/forummers with a broad brush, then I am guilty as charged.
I have never experienced a nasty "request" in my life. But as someone on (i think) this thread has pointed out, it seems the ones who are more than happy to deal with the "requests" are often the ones who are not on the receiving end. You can be sure that I will never just post up a pure KPKB drivel post!
Last edited by nuanda; 3rd June 2009 at 02:18 PM.
I've been reading this thread and it's a O and 8, no beginning and no end. We'll be discussing the same issues again a few months later.
Where can I find in the law book which states that you can take photos as long that you're in public areas.
Where's the photographers union ?
Looks like a major/big budget shoot involving some big client or celebrity.