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Old 30th December 2008   #1
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Default butterfly park in Sentosa

hi just like to share some shots taken yesterday at Sentosa Butterfly park. Only able to identify 1 of the butterfly.

#1 - Nymphalidae (Clipper) ISO200 f/9 1/60sec 100mm Macro Lens 1:2


#2 - ISO200 f/5 1/60sec 100mm Macro Lens 1:2


#3 - ISO200 f/5 1/60sec 100mm Macro Lens 1:2


#4 - Idea leuconoe chersonesia (Mangrove Tree Nymph) ISO200 f/9 1/60sec 100mm Macro Lens 1:2


#5 - Idea leuconoe chersonesia (Mangrove Tree Nymph) ISO200 f/9 1/60sec 100mm Macro Lens 1:2

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#6 - ISO200 f/5 1/60sec 100mm Macro Lens 1:2


#7 - Nymphalidae (Clipper) ISO200 f/5 1/60sec 100mm Macro Lens 1:2


#8 - ISO200 f/5 1/60sec 100mm Macro Lens 1:2


#9 - Idea leuconoe chersonesia (Mangrove Tree Nymph) ISO200 f/5 1/60sec 100mm Macrco Lens 1:2


#10 - ISO200 f/5 1/60sec 100mm Macro Lens 1:2

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#11 - ISO200 f/9 1/60sec 100mm Macro Lens 1:2


#12 - Nymphalidae (Clipper) ISO200 f/5 1/60sec 100mm Macro Lens 1:2


#13 - Idea leuconoe chersonesia (Mangrove Tree Nymph) ISO200 f/9 1/60sec 100mm Macro Lens 1:2


Thanks for viewing, C & C welcome.

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Old 30th December 2008   #4
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I still like #1 out of the lot.

Gotta be careful of the burnt reflections off the leaves when your flash is facing them directly. Try shadows/highlight if you're using Photoshop, set highlights to 0% and shadows to 50% and up and see if it gives you a better effect?

You're like a macrographer on steroids... hehe, one new thread every other day? Good work!
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Originally Posted by loboclerk View Post
I still like #1 out of the lot.

Gotta be careful of the burnt reflections off the leaves when your flash is facing them directly. Try shadows/highlight if you're using Photoshop, set highlights to 0% and shadows to 50% and up and see if it gives you a better effect?

You're like a macrographer on steroids... hehe, one new thread every other day? Good work!
Hi loboclerk Thanks for the comments! Ialso like #1 ^ ^. I'm not really good in PS all my shots 100% no touchup =.= ....the higlights and shadows function is locate at where? I'm using PS7 don't think have this. Will it be better if added a diffiuser?
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Overall, a not too bad series. The focus is abt there...i.e. eyes in focus, wings some part focus, some part oof. The flash exposure somehow overpower some of the wings e.g. #8, the whiteness on the flash can be seen. Perhaps to lower the flash exposure.

Next is to watch the background (yes macros have lots of areas to look out for ). Try to get a clutter free BG IF possible. If really not possible, then try to put a leaf behind to act as backdrop, OR if really cannot, increase the SS or smaller A to get the BG black. For some wing patterns, it does work and make the colours stand out.
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Overall, a not too bad series. The focus is abt there...i.e. eyes in focus, wings some part focus, some part oof. The flash exposure somehow overpower some of the wings e.g. #8, the whiteness on the flash can be seen. Perhaps to lower the flash exposure.

Next is to watch the background (yes macros have lots of areas to look out for ). Try to get a clutter free BG IF possible. If really not possible, then try to put a leaf behind to act as backdrop, OR if really cannot, increase the SS or smaller A to get the BG black. For some wing patterns, it does work and make the colours stand out.
Hi tchuanye, thanks for the C&C. Ya you're right the BG is rather too messy =.= will try to take note and avoid it. I'm abit confuser the ' SS ' refer to shutter speed and the
' smaller A ' refer to smaller aperture (bigger f-number?) how come with smaller A the BG will be black? And not with more focus BG and object? Sorry newbie question again =.=.
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Hi tchuanye, thanks for the C&C. Ya you're right the BG is rather too messy =.= will try to take note and avoid it. I'm abit confuser the ' SS ' refer to shutter speed and the
' smaller A ' refer to smaller aperture (bigger f-number?) how come with smaller A the BG will be black? And not with more focus BG and object? Sorry newbie question again =.=.
SS=shutter speed
smaller aperture = bigger F no.

Basically its a play of the exposure. Faster SS/smaller A, means less light from flash will reach the BG, so it will render it black.

For macro, key is focus on the subject, and the BG is a backdrop. the BG should not be distracting or detracts from the subject unless it complements the picture e.g. to show its env context etc. So if you want to throw the BG black, meter on the subject, and use a faster shutter speed, and the BG should get black...unless there is strong ambient light.

Black BG works at times, but is used too often, becomes abit uninteresting, and appears its shot in the night.
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Default Re: butterfly park in Sentosa

JC, sorry to say, the species that you've managed to ID is not 100% correct either. This is a non-native subspecies of the Tree Nymph. It's called Idea leuconoe clara which is an import from Taiwan. As it breeds very easily, and is a big slow-flying butterfly, it is very popular with many butterfly parks.

Sentosa Butterfly Park's source is non-local, so most of the species/subspecies that you see there are considered "exotic" immigrants, or foreign talent, whichever way you view it...
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Originally Posted by tchuanye View Post
SS=shutter speed
smaller aperture = bigger F no.

Basically its a play of the exposure. Faster SS/smaller A, means less light from flash will reach the BG, so it will render it black.

For macro, key is focus on the subject, and the BG is a backdrop. the BG should not be distracting or detracts from the subject unless it complements the picture e.g. to show its env context etc. So if you want to throw the BG black, meter on the subject, and use a faster shutter speed, and the BG should get black...unless there is strong ambient light.

Black BG works at times, but is used too often, becomes abit uninteresting, and appears its shot in the night.
Thanks tchuanye for clear explanation
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Originally Posted by Papilio View Post
JC, sorry to say, the species that you've managed to ID is not 100% correct either. This is a non-native subspecies of the Tree Nymph. It's called Idea leuconoe clara which is an import from Taiwan. As it breeds very easily, and is a big slow-flying butterfly, it is very popular with many butterfly parks.

Sentosa Butterfly Park's source is non-local, so most of the species/subspecies that you see there are considered "exotic" immigrants, or foreign talent, whichever way you view it...
Hi Papilio,

You really are an expert ^ ^, thanks for the information. hmmm....it was hard to ID these butterfly because it all seem look alike but there is actually some different between them.
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I think tripod is not allowed in the butterfly park, right? Went to KL one and they don't allow use of tripod.
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Default Re: butterfly park in Sentosa

So far, Sentosa is ok. I suppose there haven't been too many complaints about photographers' tripods tripping visitors or blocking the pathways yet.

Yes, it's true that some butterfly parks disallow tripods for the reasons mentioned above.

Monopods are less of a problem though...
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