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Old 20th December 2008   #1
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Unhappy A900 monitor is not accurate....

Hi guys, i just received A900 today
This is my first Sony DSLR, so i really don't know anything about it.
I thing I notice from A900.
The LCD monitor is way off from the real exposure.!!!
the LCD is giving u an image that 0.3 - 0.5 brighter....
I keep checking this morning.
Take a pic using A900, check on the LCD, the exposure look perfect.
Then I open it on my Apple mac Book pro.
The image is -0.3 under exposure
Is this normal???

I never had this kind of problem with Nikon DSLR.
The LCD on Nikon DSLR is very accurate.
is this normal on Sony DSLR?
this is really annoying

Thx in Advance
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Old 20th December 2008   #2
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Default Re: A900 monitor is not accurate....

Does adjusting the brightness of the LCD help?
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Old 20th December 2008   #3
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Forget to mention.
I did adjusted the LCD brightness to -4 already. But it did not solve the problem...
Can someone please advice me, how to set up A900 properly?
I'm also having a problem with the Zoom image.
once i push that button, the zoom will goes to 9,4x (if i'm not wrong here). the zoom image at 9.4x it too much..!
I already read the manual book, but i could not find any information, how to change it...
What I really want is, once i push the zoom button, the image will zoom only to 7.2x not 9.2x
is there a way to do this.

Thx u in advance.
I'm really confused here [:^(]
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Old 20th December 2008   #4
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Default Re: A900 monitor is not accurate....

Ah, are you shooting in Raw or JPEG?

Well, I have a similar, but well known problem with RAW files on A700, and A900 isn't spared as well (to a lesser degree)... the A700 has a tendency to display RAWs on its LCD nice and beautiful, only to shock you when you go home.

When I shoot on raw on the A700, it looks perfect, but I know that I have to down 1 stop in Adobe Bridge.

I've dealt with the a900 as well, it's closer this time, and the difference isn't as great as what I get with the a700. Used to it liao.
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Old 20th December 2008   #5
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Hi Boombox.
I;m shooting using RAW
but this is really shocking for me >_<
I was panic this morning!! all my pics turn out underexpose 0.3 - 0.5 ahkkk..!!!!
hm... this gonna be a hard time for me to deal with
I'm getting used to Nikon LCD which is 99,9% accurate
thx a lot guys.

My kepala is really pusing now hahahaa
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Old 20th December 2008   #6
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i can take over ur a900 if u want. haha.. just kidding

the zoom can be done using the dial at ur thumb i think
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Default Re: A900 monitor is not accurate....

Originally Posted by digitalxd1 View Post
Hi Boombox.
I;m shooting using RAW
but this is really shocking for me >_<
I was panic this morning!! all my pics turn out underexpose 0.3 - 0.5 ahkkk..!!!!
hm... this gonna be a hard time for me to deal with
I'm getting used to Nikon LCD which is 99,9% accurate
thx a lot guys.

My kepala is really pusing now hahahaa
The nikon LCD is also made by Sony... It's just a matter of calibration.

As for the zoom level, it's designed so that on first press, it gives you a 100% size. This is FAR preferable than some "not here, not there" level.
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Old 20th December 2008   #8
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Also... Is your mac screen correctly calibrated?
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Old 20th December 2008   #9
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i think the a900 is not up to your standard i think, i'll dispose of it for you.
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Old 20th December 2008   #10
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Default Re: A900 monitor is not accurate....

This is the most important I think. Must at least know which is the correct reference point. No meaning having Nikon LCD and monitor correlated but actually both are wrong

Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
Also... Is your mac screen correctly calibrated?
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Originally Posted by cookie88 View Post
This is the most important I think. Must at least know which is the correct reference point. No meaning having Nikon LCD and monitor correlated but actually both are wrong
today a D3 owner say his nikon LCD display is not the same as what is displayed on his monitor, a d700 owner say its almost the same.
from what i know, normally camera lcd with high resolution and small screen will display images seems to be sharper and clearer. not all camera lcd are the same.
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Default Re: A900 monitor is not accurate....

please use the histogram to check for exposure

best not to ever, ever use an uncalibrated monitor to determine exposures, etc. so the histogram, which you probably have, will tell you the true story.
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Old 21st December 2008   #13
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Originally Posted by yokechye View Post
today a D3 owner say his nikon LCD display is not the same as what is displayed on his monitor, a d700 owner say its almost the same.
from what i know, normally camera lcd with high resolution and small screen will display images seems to be sharper and clearer. not all camera lcd are the same.
Plus, there may be discrepancies between screen batches
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Seeing an LCD screen under different ambient lighting conditions also changes the perceived brightness of the image on the screen. Shielding it from direct light helps to a degree, but still not accurate. Histogram, and watching the blinking area of the image for clipping, is more reliable and safer imo.
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Old 22nd December 2008   #15
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LCD on the camera can only be an indicative not absolute.

Its about how well you understand your tool before blaming on it.

LCD behind the camera tend to a little brighter than LCD monitor... then again it depends on how your screen is calibrated.

A900 lcd tend to display image a little nicer... what they do I believe the image has been "processed" with internal "setting" before showing on LCD. When you open your image on photoshop, it depends on how your "default" setting works...

If you believe the screen on the A900 tend to a little brighter, just shoot to compensate it or train your eyes to see the "correct" exposure.

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I think shifu hart's summed it all up, It's more of being indicative rather than absolute. I usually use my screen to check if I've focused correctly - as well as check on my previous composition - a luxury compared to the film days, and lastly, the histogram. There's no severe blinking on my histogram screen, I'm pretty safe - and I then know that my photos are digital darkroom ready.
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Old 22nd December 2008   #17
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Originally Posted by boombox View Post
I think shifu hart's summed it all up, It's more of being indicative rather than absolute. I usually use my screen to check if I've focused correctly - as well as check on my previous composition - a luxury compared to the film days, and lastly, the histogram. There's no severe blinking on my histogram screen, I'm pretty safe - and I then know that my photos are digital darkroom ready.
Guys.
I want to Apologize...
I think i made a big mistake here
When I did the test, I set the DRO to ADV Level +3 and I'm shooting in RAW mode.
everything turn out very nice on the LCD.
however, once I opened it on my Mac Book Pro, the image look so dark + a lot of shadow...
I opened the Manual book again, read it carefully page 79.
It mentions, in RAW mode, only STANDARD DRO can be apply to the RAW image
No Wonder it's look nice on the LCD, due to the +3 DRO (please take a note, I did those test inside a room, with a flash bouncing)

Yesterday morning, I did another test, but this time I SET the DRO standard.
Now the LCD was displaying very accurate exposure ^^
I'm Happy.
here is an example from yesterday morning

A900 + Zeiss 135/1.8


Once again, sorry for this misunderstanding...
I'm a newbie in Sony DSLR >_<

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Old 22nd December 2008   #18
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no worries, at least we are reminded of the feature

"in RAW mode, only STANDARD DRO can be apply to the RAW image"

We learn from each other.
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Old 22nd December 2008   #19
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Ah, that's nice to know... If you really liked the DRO effects and still want to get them:

In order to get the DRO Advanced effects, you need to use the RAW converter provided by Sony - the Image Data Converter in order to parse and process the Additional "tags" that are made attached to the file, else they'd be ignored in your standard RAW converters like Aperture or Adobe Camera Raw.

Well, if you don't like to use Sony's IDC software, like I do with ACR, which i use religiously, if I really wanted to lift the shadows using DRO advanced modes, I do shoot in RAW+JPEG. JPEG files will have their DRO information written in permanently.



And... no problem bro Andree, everybody starts out new somewhere some time. Good to share your findings with those who don't know yet...
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Old 22nd December 2008   #20
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Nice picture Andree...the bokeh is awesome.
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