Taken with Fuji finepix 602, looks like slides

tomshen · 14th September 2003

http://photo.poco.cn/lastphoto.php?id=20692

Seems that many Chinese photographers prefer such technique, what do you think?

Recently I have been quite overwhelmed by some Chinese photography websites. They seem much more concentrated on pictures and produce nicer effects.

Zerstorer · 14th September 2003

I think some large radius USM(de-haze) and leveling has been performed on some of the images at least to get better contrast.

Look at the 3rd image:
http://photo.poco.cn/images/20030913...0913211122.jpg

Halo around the model suggests de-haze was used.

tomshen · 14th September 2003

Read the comments from the poster, it's more than that. They use such technique a lot to turn digital photos into slides looking. Surprisingly nobody seems know this in CS.

tomshen · 14th September 2003

btw, such technique generally increase contrast and saturation. Some colors could be highly saturated, like red, yellow, blue etc. Looks unreal but nice. I think moderate use would be a powerful technique for portraiture.

Wolfgang · 14th September 2003

Originally Posted by tomshen

btw, such technique generally increase contrast and saturation. Some colors could be highly saturated, like red, yellow, blue etc. Looks unreal but nice. I think moderate use would be a powerful technique for portraiture.

I would think so too.... Tom, do you have idea whats the workflow like to get such "effects"?

Kindly advise.

tomshen · 14th September 2003

http://digi.pchome.net/cool/2003/5/22/130_2388.htm

erwinx · 14th September 2003

none of the pics in the link look like slides, not even Provia 100F let alone the creamy smooth Astia

i won't even mention the jpeg/sharpening artifacts (look at the transition between the arms/background).

D60 can't compare to S2 Pro for smooth creamy colours. D60 colour range in the skin tones a bit blocky though a proper icc profile might help.

Maybe once when they release EF Mount S3 Pro.

Wolfgang · 14th September 2003

Originally Posted by tomshen

http://digi.pchome.net/cool/2003/5/22/130_2388.htm

Tom ah.. erm..

Sorry.. my chinese really isn't all that great.

Any chance a kind soul would be nice enough to do a translation?

reno77 · 14th September 2003

Originally Posted by tomshen

http://digi.pchome.net/cool/2003/5/22/130_2388.htm

Can someone translate this into English please ? I only see squares.

tomshen · 14th September 2003

Originally Posted by erwinx

none of the pics in the link look like slides, not even Provia 100F let alone the creamy smooth Astia i won't even mention the jpeg/sharpening artifacts (look at the transition between the arms/background).

D60 can't compare to S2 Pro for smooth creamy colours. D60 colour range in the skin tones a bit blocky though a proper icc profile might help.

Maybe once when they release EF Mount S3 Pro.

They call it "slide-processed-as-negative" effect. Of course not really slide looking, but certainly not digital look as well.

tomshen · 14th September 2003

Let me digest first, sorry to say I have not fully understood yet.

Wolfgang · 14th September 2003

Originally Posted by tomshen

Let me digest first, sorry to say I have not fully understood yet.

Well, i'm sure quite a few of us will be looking forward to your translation.

Thanks Tom.

Gunjack · 14th September 2003

I dun think they look like slides at all. More like crossed processed slides, but still looks quite artificial to me. Too much USM? The pics look very 2D to me. Actually I think the pics would look better if they were a bit diffused looking, makes the pic look surreal to add to the mood.

tomshen · 15th September 2003

Actually I dunno how to properly call it, just give you all some idea. Quite refreshing to me. Here is another example: http://www.iambtp.com/photo/red0726.html

Don't argue with the picture quality, you might be able to do it better after you master the skill.

Wolfie, you might have to wait about 1 month for me to digest, solli hah, a bit too long, quite busy these days

... I would try it out in my next portrait series, if I know how to do it.

Zerstorer · 15th September 2003

It's a cross-processed look. As in actual slide cross-processing, what it does is some colour shift and a general contrast boost.

Seems to be a mix of curves, colour sat/hue adjustments and general USM techniques. T

he technique itself shouldn't be much of a mystery. It's the execution and correct application of it to the right photo and theme that's crucial. These guys seem to have pulled it off pretty well.

Agpx4 · 15th September 2003

Here is the photo that I use for testing in implementing the method in using difference layer and tuning. Tom, I can read chinese but some of the word they direct translate from english to chinese for the PS which I can't understand at all.....

Before process.

After process.

any comment?

David's Photography

tomshen · 15th September 2003

I did try out, but not up to my satisfaction. Will try again and let others know when I get the idea. btw, more PS techniques seem have been used during processing. It's my time to learn PS, so called digital darkroom.

I think CS might like to bring back POTW/POTM, and portfolio sub-forum etc. Pity to say so many good equipment here but not equivalent good photos.

Agree?

tomshen · 15th September 2003

David, you could create another layer, use gradient fill and "screen" mode blending to bring out the details of the ground. btw, the picture's horizon was a bit tilted, hah

melnjes · 21st September 2003

Has anyone figured out the technique? The chinese is greek to me

Acieed · 21st September 2003

Thanks Tomshen for the links, they are very interesting

Indeed we need less equipment talk, more picture and techniques around here.

For the benefit of all clubsnappers, here's my translation:

Taken from: http://digi.pchome.net/cool/2003/5/22/130_2388.htm

1. Open an image. Select "Blue" from the channel palette, and go to "Apply Image". Check "invert" and select "Overlay" blending, then set opacity to 50%.

2. Repeat the same steps for the "Green" channel using 20% opacity.

3. Select the "Red" channel and go to "Apply Image". Set "Color Burn" blending and leave other options intact.

4. Adjust levels to the following:
B: 21 0.76 151
G: 46 1.37 221
R: 51 1.28 255

5. Adjust brightness/contrast to -3/+16.

6. Adjust saturation to +17.

Have fun!

14th September 2003	#1
tomshen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,719	Taken with Fuji finepix 602, looks like slides http://photo.poco.cn/lastphoto.php?id=20692 Seems that many Chinese photographers prefer such technique, what do you think? Recently I have been quite overwhelmed by some Chinese photography websites. They seem much more concentrated on pictures and produce nicer effects. __________________ Visit http://www.tomshenstudio.com

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tomshen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,719	Read the comments from the poster, it's more than that. They use such technique a lot to turn digital photos into slides looking. Surprisingly nobody seems know this in CS. __________________ Visit http://www.tomshenstudio.com

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tomshen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,719	btw, such technique generally increase contrast and saturation. Some colors could be highly saturated, like red, yellow, blue etc. Looks unreal but nice. I think moderate use would be a powerful technique for portraiture. __________________ Visit http://www.tomshenstudio.com

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tomshen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,719	Let me digest first, sorry to say I have not fully understood yet. __________________ Visit http://www.tomshenstudio.com

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Zerstorer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,610	I think some large radius USM(de-haze) and leveling has been performed on some of the images at least to get better contrast. Look at the 3rd image: http://photo.poco.cn/images/20030913...0913211122.jpg Halo around the model suggests de-haze was used.

14th September 2003	#7
erwinx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,492	none of the pics in the link look like slides, not even Provia 100F let alone the creamy smooth Astia i won't even mention the jpeg/sharpening artifacts (look at the transition between the arms/background). D60 can't compare to S2 Pro for smooth creamy colours. D60 colour range in the skin tones a bit blocky though a proper icc profile might help. Maybe once when they release EF Mount S3 Pro.

14th September 2003	#13
Gunjack Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Zimbabwe Posts: 990	I dun think they look like slides at all. More like crossed processed slides, but still looks quite artificial to me. Too much USM? The pics look very 2D to me. Actually I think the pics would look better if they were a bit diffused looking, makes the pic look surreal to add to the mood. Last edited by Gunjack; 14th September 2003 at 11:59 PM.

15th September 2003	#14
tomshen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,719	Actually I dunno how to properly call it, just give you all some idea. Quite refreshing to me. Here is another example: http://www.iambtp.com/photo/red0726.html Don't argue with the picture quality, you might be able to do it better after you master the skill. Wolfie, you might have to wait about 1 month for me to digest, solli hah, a bit too long, quite busy these days ... I would try it out in my next portrait series, if I know how to do it. __________________ Visit http://www.tomshenstudio.com

15th September 2003	#16
Agpx4 Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 416	Here is the photo that I use for testing in implementing the method in using difference layer and tuning. Tom, I can read chinese but some of the word they direct translate from english to chinese for the PS which I can't understand at all..... Before process. After process. any comment? David's Photography

21st September 2003	#19
melnjes Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,143	Has anyone figured out the technique? The chinese is greek to me

21st September 2003	#20
Acieed Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: - Posts: 395	Thanks Tomshen for the links, they are very interesting Indeed we need less equipment talk, more picture and techniques around here. For the benefit of all clubsnappers, here's my translation: Taken from: http://digi.pchome.net/cool/2003/5/22/130_2388.htm 1. Open an image. Select "Blue" from the channel palette, and go to "Apply Image". Check "invert" and select "Overlay" blending, then set opacity to 50%. 2. Repeat the same steps for the "Green" channel using 20% opacity. 3. Select the "Red" channel and go to "Apply Image". Set "Color Burn" blending and leave other options intact. 4. Adjust levels to the following: B: 21 0.76 151 G: 46 1.37 221 R: 51 1.28 255 5. Adjust brightness/contrast to -3/+16. 6. Adjust saturation to +17. Have fun! Last edited by Acieed; 21st September 2003 at 04:19 PM.