602Z video recording terminating too soon.

toasty · 14th September 2003

Hi

Does the 602Z have some problem working with regular CF cards? I read something in the manual which said that some CF cards may not work properly with the 602Z.

When I am shooting movies, sometimes the recording stops by itself and a
!BUSY warning appears. In the manual, it says that it means the card was not formatted on the camera, but I suspect that it is because I am trying to use CF instead of microdrive.

Does anyone know which CF cards work with 602Z? I tried with Transcend 256MB, ridata 128MB and ridata 256MB, all of the have this problem of terminating the recording before I press the shutter release a second time. The transcend fails the quickest, usually after 15s or so. The Ridata's tend to last longer, but still fail maybe after about 1 minute. Or is this a problem with my 602Z?

Taking photos is fine, it's just the video that has some problem.

Thank.

Zerstorer · 14th September 2003

Unlimited recording is not officially supported on for CF cards on the 602. The recommended media is a microdrive although some users have experienced success with 24X and above CF cards.

Reformatting the CF and changing the cluster size is said to help in some cases.
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=28192

tweakmax2 · 14th September 2003

yr cf card is slow

imaginary_number · 14th September 2003

I was able to record continuous video with a Transcend 30x card. Ridata required some workaround though - reformatting with a different cluster size solved the problem.

mpenza · 14th September 2003

PQI 40x and Transcend 30x allows recording to the max. 20x or faster ones could record to the max if you do a reformatting.

teckwee · 14th September 2003

I'm using Twinmos 512MB CF 1 and do not experience this problem. Not sure abt this card's speed but it was bought during one promotion by Twinmos.

snowparang · 17th September 2003

I just bought a 30X 512 Transcend from one of the forumer here (still have stock at $170), able to record at 640x480 video all the way.

but the 602Z sound quality quite terok.....as compared to my Canon A40

wong_se · 2nd October 2003

Question on reformatting the CF card.

Had read the thread http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...light=reformat.

Not sure this is the correct way to reformat the CF and change the cluster size to 32bit. Can anyone confirm on this before trying ?

mpenza · 2nd October 2003

should be 32K, not 32 bit. btw, don't format to FAT32 format. I think it won't work on the 602Z.

wong_se · 2nd October 2003

don't format to FAT32 format.

then which format shall I use ?

never format a CF card before. Would this command "Click run and type FORMAT E: /FS:FAT /A:8192" work??

Pls advise, thanks

sabre · 14th October 2003

Originally Posted by wong_se

don't format to FAT32 format.

then which format shall I use ?

never format a CF card before. Would this command "Click run and type FORMAT E: /FS:FAT /A:8192" work??

Pls advise, thanks

Just do
format e: /a:32k /q
where e is the drive letter assigned to the cf reader or s602z.
/a indicates the cluster size and /q indicates a quick format.
This defaults to formatting FAT and not FAT32, at least on my win2k machine.
Just experiment, I don't think your CF will spoil because of this. If your CF becomes unreadable, just use your s602z to format the CF and everything should be fine again.
BTW, I just got myself a s602z and this works on it!

zaxh81 · 14th October 2003

i do a reformatting on my cf using a reader and now not only the video clip is shorter,once i playback,it show READ ERROR.
it's ok with photos but not on video.
btw,i'm using a sandisk card.

sabre · 15th October 2003

Originally Posted by zaxh81

i do a reformatting on my cf using a reader and now not only the video clip is shorter,once i playback,it show READ ERROR.
it's ok with photos but not on video.
btw,i'm using a sandisk card.

You did a quick format or a full format? Maybe you can try formatting without the /q parameter. The result should be more stable. At least this is my experience with harddisks.

For those who dread using the using the start->run or DOS command prompt, there's another way to format in windows 2000. Use your Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Computer Management->Disk Management. Just choose the drive that represents your CF, right-click, choose format and it pops up the options for you to select for formatting.

BTW for your reference, I'm using a kingston CF and the cluster size I use is 32k. I can't get to format the CF to anything above 32k cluster size though.

14th September 2003	#1
toasty Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Singapore, near NUS Posts: 367	602Z video recording terminating too soon. Hi Does the 602Z have some problem working with regular CF cards? I read something in the manual which said that some CF cards may not work properly with the 602Z. When I am shooting movies, sometimes the recording stops by itself and a !BUSY warning appears. In the manual, it says that it means the card was not formatted on the camera, but I suspect that it is because I am trying to use CF instead of microdrive. Does anyone know which CF cards work with 602Z? I tried with Transcend 256MB, ridata 128MB and ridata 256MB, all of the have this problem of terminating the recording before I press the shutter release a second time. The transcend fails the quickest, usually after 15s or so. The Ridata's tend to last longer, but still fail maybe after about 1 minute. Or is this a problem with my 602Z? Taking photos is fine, it's just the video that has some problem. Thank.

14th September 2003	#6
teckwee New Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Queenstown Posts: 43	602Z video recording terminating too soon. I'm using Twinmos 512MB CF 1 and do not experience this problem. Not sure abt this card's speed but it was bought during one promotion by Twinmos.

14th October 2003	#12
zaxh81 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 4,383	i do a reformatting on my cf using a reader and now not only the video clip is shorter,once i playback,it show READ ERROR. it's ok with photos but not on video. btw,i'm using a sandisk card. __________________ Nikon D150 \| 25mm F0.7 \| SB400

14th September 2003	#2
Zerstorer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,610	Unlimited recording is not officially supported on for CF cards on the 602. The recommended media is a microdrive although some users have experienced success with 24X and above CF cards. Reformatting the CF and changing the cluster size is said to help in some cases. http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=28192

14th September 2003	#3
tweakmax2 Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pasir Ris Posts: 557	yr cf card is slow

14th September 2003	#4
imaginary_number Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,895	I was able to record continuous video with a Transcend 30x card. Ridata required some workaround though - reformatting with a different cluster size solved the problem.

14th September 2003	#5
mpenza Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,397	PQI 40x and Transcend 30x allows recording to the max. 20x or faster ones could record to the max if you do a reformatting.

17th September 2003	#7
snowparang Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 98	I just bought a 30X 512 Transcend from one of the forumer here (still have stock at $170), able to record at 640x480 video all the way. but the 602Z sound quality quite terok.....as compared to my Canon A40

2nd October 2003	#8
wong_se Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 888	Question on reformatting the CF card. Had read the thread http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...light=reformat. Not sure this is the correct way to reformat the CF and change the cluster size to 32bit. Can anyone confirm on this before trying ?