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    like on a street in orchard or at och? any bros care to share their knowledge? also do we need permission to shoot at Dempsey Rd?
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    Nope, you don't

    Edit: OCH, Yes, since that is private property.
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    wanted to check this question too but haven't post only..

    btw vince,

    are mrt stations exception? though they don't put up signs saying no photography we all know is prretty hard to shoot there..legally is it allowed?

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    In my personal view (which you can rely on at your own risk/detriment), the MRT station, being a privately owned place, has the right to impose any conditions for you being on the premises, including banning photography.

    If however, there are no signs, you can claim that you have no notice of such a rule, and when they inform you of the rule on the spot, all you need to do is to leave. You do not have to surrender your camera or delete any images.

    Any attempt to restrain you or snatch your camera or forcefully delete the photos, may render the MRT staff legally liable for both civil and criminal penalties.

    This is by the way, quite different if you are standing on a public road and taking photographs OF an MRT station, as opposed to being INSIDE the MRT station.

    Quote Originally Posted by sprintist View Post
    wanted to check this question too but haven't post only..

    btw vince,

    are mrt stations exception? though they don't put up signs saying no photography we all know is prretty hard to shoot there..legally is it allowed?

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    any bros care to share their knowledge? also do we need permission to shoot at Dempsey Rd?

    If its near those empty old houses...perhaps "they" (those gurkhas on patrol from their camp) won't allow it. Many times i have seen portrait photographers getting stopped and chased away from those houses.

    Maybe they have strict orders to chase away people from going too near the old base camp? I am not surprised, since they have patrols on the roads in the whole area, like almost every 20 minutes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbs99 View Post
    If its near those empty old houses...perhaps "they" (those gurkhas on patrol from their camp) won't allow it. Many times i have seen portrait photographers getting stopped and chased away from those houses.

    Maybe they have strict orders to chase away people from going too near the old base camp? I am not surprised, since they have patrols on the roads in the whole area, like almost every 20 minutes?
    ah ok coz someone told me they were shooting at dempsey and someone came and told them they needed a permit to shoot there and there's supposed to be a website that you have to go to to apply to shoot in singapore....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuestion View Post
    ah ok coz someone told me they were shooting at dempsey and someone came and told them they needed a permit to shoot there and there's supposed to be a website that you have to go to to apply to shoot in singapore....
    ah... this i wouldn't know. But im sure many portrait-ists would love the lobang for it.

    If it's just some "touristy", or "drive-by" shooting of photos...then i think shouldn't be any problem. Was there during the canon photomarathon, didn't have any problems. (although i wasn't just outside their camp shooting...haha)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuestion View Post
    like on a street in orchard or at och? any bros care to share their knowledge? also do we need permission to shoot at Dempsey Rd?
    orchard rd - no problem
    och - it's property leased from the state so u may be caught for trespassing by the leaseholder
    dempsey rd - i'm not sure

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    never argue with a gurkha
    i believe that their orders are clear and they will follow them

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    never argue with a gurkha
    i believe that their orders are clear and they will follow them
    shoot on sight?
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    Aiya so many times pple say that you need this and that permit. Whether real or not they don't care - they just want to protect their interests.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuestion View Post
    ah ok coz someone told me they were shooting at dempsey and someone came and told them they needed a permit to shoot there and there's supposed to be a website that you have to go to to apply to shoot in singapore....

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    In my personal view (which you can rely on at your own risk/detriment), the MRT station, being a privately owned place, has the right to impose any conditions for you being on the premises, including banning photography.

    If however, there are no signs, you can claim that you have no notice of such a rule, and when they inform you of the rule on the spot, all you need to do is to leave. You do not have to surrender your camera or delete any images.

    Any attempt to restrain you or snatch your camera or forcefully delete the photos, may render the MRT staff legally liable for both civil and criminal penalties.

    This is by the way, quite different if you are standing on a public road and taking photographs OF an MRT station, as opposed to being INSIDE the MRT station.
    right, understood. thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    Aiya so many times pple say that you need this and that permit. Whether real or not they don't care - they just want to protect their interests.
    well dempsey is kind of tricky coz it is an old army camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    never argue with a gurkha
    i believe that their orders are clear and they will follow them
    they have their parangs with them..or wadever u call it for theirs

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    In my personal view (which you can rely on at your own risk/detriment), the MRT station, being a privately owned place, has the right to impose any conditions for you being on the premises, including banning photography.

    If however, there are no signs, you can claim that you have no notice of such a rule, and when they inform you of the rule on the spot, all you need to do is to leave. You do not have to surrender your camera or delete any images.

    Any attempt to restrain you or snatch your camera or forcefully delete the photos, may render the MRT staff legally liable for both civil and criminal penalties.

    This is by the way, quite different if you are standing on a public road and taking photographs OF an MRT station, as opposed to being INSIDE the MRT station.
    actually i beg to differ. one day, in sheer boredom while waiting for a friend, i actually read through the whole board of mrt by-laws and photography was one of the no-nos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuestion View Post
    shoot on sight?
    i believe that if their instructions are to prevent anyone from trespassing
    they will do it with minimal force

    or justifiable force

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprintist View Post
    they have their parangs with them..or wadever u call it for theirs
    it is called a kukri
    a popular urban legend states that a Gurkha "never sheaths his blade without first drawing blood"
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfurr View Post
    actually i beg to differ. one day, in sheer boredom while waiting for a friend, i actually read through the whole board of mrt by-laws and photography was one of the no-nos.
    "i didnt read your post" haha (in jest)

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    so the old cmpb is part of their patrol route?
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    Care to share where the by-laws can be found?

    Besides, as I said, even if there is indeed such a rule, all MRT can ask you to do is to leave. Unless you tell me that there is specific legislation empowering them to detain you, search you, confiscate your camera, delete your photos etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by pfurr View Post
    actually i beg to differ. one day, in sheer boredom while waiting for a friend, i actually read through the whole board of mrt by-laws and photography was one of the no-nos.

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