Proper guideline for vulgarities.

[kritikosN1]

Basically my post got 4 asterisk and it was termed vulgarities. So we should have a proper rules stating what amount of asterisk is a vulgarities.

* - Not a vulgarities
** - Shorthand vulgarities
*** - Not a vulgarities
**** - vulgarities
***** - not a vulgarities
****** - pass tense vulgarities

And for my post, I do not know why the proper word for crap is consider a vulgarity. I will be quite ashame to use to toilet for my stomach problem now, since I am indirectly producing vulgar material.

From Darren.

Reason:
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Guideline Reminder

Do not use vulgarities (even though they are censored) and ensure critiques are constructive.
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and how does this critiques(Darren quote me this one) is unconstructive?

Quote: Are you shooting the sky, the sea, or the boat? Basically, your composition is ****, as it requires people to have a second thoughts on what you are actually shooting at. First thing anyone see will be the sky. If you want people to focus on the boat instead, you will need to lower your angle so that the shadow is being casted directly to you from the sky. Too much highlights for a low key photo. Reduce the amount of sky will improve this image.

[PyeeL]

Please brace yourself for war.
I'm sure Darren wasn't referring to that one specific post.

[night86mare]

you give scores for photographs. i think you have been spending too much time on flickr and have been smoking the wrong wine.

constructive feedback is how eikin writes it. it is put in a cordial way, blunt but not abrasive. when i look at what you write in critique corner abrasive is the word that comes to mind immediately. sure, like i've said, you make good points sometimes. you throw in scores, you throw in acid tones.. you waste it all. no one is going to see past that, people will take offense and you basically waste your time.

they say that how you approach others' photos is a representation of how you approach your photos. if you have no respect for anyone's effort (or even a lack thereof), how can you respect yours, and evaluate your own critically, objectively? a bad photo is bad, yes, but still, a basic level of mutual respect has to be present.

grow up. life's not always how you want it to be.

[catchlights]

calling a CSer's work as "sai" is not very Nice and very Civilized.
and anything comments after this how can it be constructive?

[ortega]

anyway, just a reminder of the

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[zaren]

Originally Posted by kritikosN1 and how does this critiques(Darren quote me this one) is unconstructive? "Are you shooting the sky, the sea, or the boat? Basically, your composition is ****, as it requires people to have a second thoughts on what you are actually shooting at. First thing anyone see will be the sky. If you want people to focus on the boat instead, you will need to lower your angle so that the shadow is being casted directly to you from the sky. Too much highlights for a low key photo. Reduce the amount of sky will improve this image."

your critique, though constructive, was impolite.

here's a simple suggestion to improve your critique (see edited version below).

edited critique:
"Are you shooting the sky, the sea, or the boat?

Basically, your composition requires people to have a second thoughts on what you are actually shooting at.

First thing anyone see will be the sky. If you want people to focus on the boat instead, you will need to lower your angle so that the shadow is being casted directly to you from the sky.

Too much highlights for a low key photo. Reduce the amount of sky will improve this image."

Now that wasn't so hard, was it?

[ortega]

Originally Posted by kritikosN1 But we wont be posting here anymore, since the moderators here have no problem listening to any complains and deleting post. Heading back to photo.net and DA. Quite disappointed with a critiques corner where people only want to hear good things, it defeat the purpose of critiques.

the TS has decided not to post here anymore

[night86mare]

Originally Posted by ortega the TS has decided not to post here anymore

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you mean photo.net allows vulgarities?

most other photo forums (international ones) i have been to tend to go easier actually. state critique in a matter-of-fact way.

i don't think he'll be very popular in photo.net either. but oh well, that's the way it is.

[ortega]

Originally Posted by night86mare ot you mean photo.net allows vulgarities? most other photo forums (international ones) i have been to tend to go easier actually. state critique in a matter-of-fact way. i don't think he'll be very popular in photo.net either. but oh well, that's the way it is.

i only surf CS, so i don't know

[zaren]

Originally Posted by ortega the TS has decided not to post here anymore

darn! just as we were getting warmed up!

[ortega]

Originally Posted by zaren darn! just as we were getting warmed up!

sorry, i cannot ignore a request
and had to help him, put him out of his misery

[PyeeL]

Originally Posted by ortega sorry, i cannot ignore a request and had to help him, put him out of his misery

As well as many others on Critique Corner.

[Cheesecake]

giving off suggestions and critiques in Critique Corner is welcomed.

but pls do not pass off urself as god's gift to photography and start to grade every member's work. what we want are only critiques and suggestions on how best to further improve the foto.

let us all make Critique Corner a better place for members who are keen to further improve their photography.

[sORe-EyEz]

why need guidelines for vulgarities in the first place?

its not part of giving impartial critiques. those with unhealthy egos, or those who should get down their high horse, instead of 'throwing their weight around'. by having a guideline, it will oni goes to show vulgarities are tolerated.

[night86mare]

Originally Posted by sORe-EyEz by having a guideline, it will oni goes to show vulgarities are tolerated.

i don't understand the logic here.

[zaren]

Originally Posted by Cheesecake giving off suggestions and critiques in Critique Corner is welcomed. but pls do not pass off urself as god's gift to photography and start to grade every member's work. what we want are only critiques and suggestions on how best to further improve the foto. let us all make Critique Corner a better place for members who are keen to further improve their photography.

grading every member's work will quickly lead to eggs on one's face, unless she is a very good, consistent and experienced critic. it is far safer to state likes and dislikes of the image, and to suggest improvements.

[Cheesecake]

Originally Posted by zaren grading every member's work will quickly lead to eggs on one's face, unless she is a very good, consistent and experienced critic. it is far safer to state likes and dislikes of the image, and to suggest improvements.

yes sir!!

[night86mare]

Originally Posted by zaren grading every member's work will quickly lead to eggs on one's face, unless she is a very good, consistent and experienced critic. it is far safer to state likes and dislikes of the image, and to suggest improvements.

yes.

besides, it exhibits a lofty attitude, like you have the qualifications to grade work like a teacher.

we are teachers and students of each other.

[zaren]

Originally Posted by sORe-EyEz why need guidelines for vulgarities in the first place? its not part of giving impartial critiques. those with unhealthy egos, or those who should get down their high horse, instead of 'throwing their weight around'. by having a guideline, it will oni goes to show vulgarities are tolerated.

TS only proposed that becos he buay song kena guideline reminder (not even an infraction!) from darren mah.

the guideline re vulgarities has never changed. vulgarities r not tolerated here.

anyway, TS has been dereg, so just ignore his proposal.

[sORe-EyEz]

oic, i guess this thread is done.