Suggestion: Code of Conduct for Lingerine and Nude Organised Shoots continuation

[TheQuestion]

not surprisingly the original thread here:
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442941
has been closed and it doesn't look like the mods are the ones who locked it. As a member of this community think the matter is far from closed and people should still voice out whatever concerns or thoughts they have on Averal's great matter. Incidentally she also has yet to apologize for saying something that insinuated the cs mods in a very defamatory manner. The thread isn't dead and neither is the matter so i'm starting a new one. If the mods think the matter should be laid to rest then feel free to close this thread and delete it.

[redstone]

Models should be careful too. Don't offer themselves up for lingerie/binki/etc if the DON'T WANT to be shot in that concept in the first place.

[vince123123]

Assuming it wasn't the mod/admins who closed it, I can only sigh at how she has chosen to cop out by closing her own suggestion thread when it got rebutted.

[redstone]

Originally Posted by vince123123 Assuming it wasn't the mod/admins who closed it, I can only sigh at how she has chosen to cop out by closing her own suggestion thread when it got rebutted.

I still think we shouldn't be using personal attacks.. rebute her points, not her as a person.

I think she failed to see the other side of the picture (no pun intended), that some young girls are calling themselves models and offering themselves up for such shoots. It's like throwing yourself into a potential trap.

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

Originally Posted by vince123123 Assuming it wasn't the mod/admins who closed it, I can only sigh at how she has chosen to cop out by closing her own suggestion thread when it got rebutted.

None of the admins/mods closed it, cos we're still waiting for her apology.

She have logged in earlier, unrepentant, hence my suspension of her account.

[redstone]

Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt None of the admins/mods closed it, cos we're still waiting for her apology. She have logged in earlier, unrepentant, hence my suspension of her account.

She closed her own thread?

[ortega]

[ Moderator mode off ]

Personally as a photographer, i think we should be thinking of what we [the photographers] can do, instead of thinking of the posers.
in the first place why pay hard earned money to shoot these CMI XMM in the first place
it is a total waste of time and HDD space.

if your passion is in this genre, then get real models, professional ones.
or better still, join a workshop where you will actually learn something

if you want to "practice", shoot your friends/family/other CS members
or let the posers ask for a tfcd
they want/need the pictures, not we want/need to shoot them

[TheQuestion]

Originally Posted by redstone I still think we shouldn't be using personal attacks.. rebute her points, not her as a person. I think she failed to see the other side of the picture (no pun intended), that some young girls are calling themselves models and offering themselves up for such shoots. It's like throwing yourself into a potential trap.

that's not a personal attack. and its way more polite considering some of the stuff she's insinuated against the mod team.

[TheQuestion]

Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt None of the admins/mods closed it, cos we're still waiting for her apology. She have logged in earlier, unrepentant, hence my suspension of her account.

not surprised. the whole while she's acted like she's done nothing wrong and that history will vindicate her.

[TheQuestion]

anyway maybe now that she's suspended and unable to join the discussion we might be able to get the community to talk more about the shoot matter and maybe improve things. for one thing i agree with what ortega's said.

[mrleech]

Aiyoh.. I think I got trapped.. 14yo dun talk like that right?
Maybe its someone else.. you know....

Anyway, I think most of us got the idea of what is going on. Perhaps they are just trying to be idealistic. Nothing wrong. Just that such measures cannot be set in place within a short period of time.

[redstone]

Originally Posted by mrleech Aiyoh.. I think I got trapped.. 14yo dun talk like that right? Maybe its someone else.. you know.... Anyway, I think most of us got the idea of what is going on. Perhaps they are just trying to be idealistic. Nothing wrong. Just that such measures cannot be set in place within a short period of time.

I have a feeling there's going to be a new TNP article soon...

[scandal599]

It is pity she closed out her own thread after firing off so mnay salvos and wanting everyone to adhere to her POV when it somehow does not work. There after, she just fades and none will know what happened.

With her acct suspended pending an apology, I guess we should be able to get some real work done in terms of improvement.

On a personal note, I still want to know who exactly Lynette is and what agenda "she" has. I jus feel that something is not convincing...obviously she is avoiding something...just my hunch

[TheQuestion]

Originally Posted by scandal599 It is pity she closed out her own thread after firing off so mnay salvos and wanting everyone to adhere to her POV when it somehow does not work. There after, she just fades and none will know what happened. With her acct suspended pending an apology, I guess we should be able to get some real work done in terms of improvement. On a personal note, I still want to know who exactly Lynette is and what agenda "she" has. I jus feel that something is not convincing...obviously she is avoiding something...just my hunch

one thing that bothers me though: no offence to the mod's and their decision to suspend her but how is she gonna apologize if she can't post?

[TheQuestion]

Originally Posted by redstone I have a feeling there's going to be a new TNP article soon...

I hope the headline sez this: Forum suspends member after she made defamatory comments against the admin team

[redstone]

Originally Posted by TheQuestion I hope the headline sez this: Forum suspends member after she made defamatory comments against the admin team

They can reword as "modelling activist being flammed"... and history repeats itself. The power of the tabloid.

I have the feeling "lynette" is either a clone of the lady trying to defend and "support" her own posts, or a reporter.

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

Originally Posted by TheQuestion one thing that bothers me though: no offence to the mod's and their decision to suspend her but how is she gonna apologize if she can't post?

She can still use the PM function during suspension, thought you should know that...

She can always draft a pm to us about her apology, and we will probably lift the suspension for her to post.

[nightwolf75]

Originally Posted by redstone She closed her own thread?

according to the log, it appears so cos none of the mods/admin closed her thread as we are still waiting for an apology from averal.

Originally Posted by TheQuestion one thing that bothers me though: no offence to the mod's and their decision to suspend her but how is she gonna apologize if she can't post?

she was given more than 24 hrs to respond, after DCA, Darren and I posted in her thread. she was also PMed in private by a mod to make a public apology. however, she has chosen to ignore despite given every opportunity to make amends. hence, the suspension.

i suggest that, as we have mentioned b4, since we are not against averal's concerns but against her way of doing things and getting her point across (insulting the entire CS community by calling us pimps and this place a mini-geylang is definitely counter-productive), why don't we use this to find some viable ways to address the 'sleaze' image?

no point accusing CS admin/mod team for not doing anything and go off a tangent by cracking jokes. rest assured, we are doing something in the background. just that we need viable ideas from the CS community.

[night86mare]

Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt She can always draft a pm to us about her apology, and we will probably lift the suspension for her to post.

you must have been smoking the wrong wine

[scandal599]

Originally Posted by TheQuestion one thing that bothers me though: no offence to the mod's and their decision to suspend her but how is she gonna apologize if she can't post?

Originally Posted by TheQuestion I hope the headline sez this: Forum suspends member after she made defamatory comments against the admin team

Well I guess as this is a public forum, she will need to make a public apology.

Headline news: Model crys foul over suspension. "I was not wrong", she says. Launches petition online to get her reinstated.

And so the story goes......

But lets get serious on the improvements. With someone like Lynette, we are a minefield to fall into traps like that. Trying to think how to mitigate this. Any ideas?