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    So true....but its always easier to start a witch hunt on wolfish male photographers, than to do the same for slutty female models. Hence, the way the story is being presented.

    Brings to mind that other CS poster who is a journalist, telling us the real scoop on how newspapers can slant a story any way they want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    It's interesting how it's the photographers who "scour the internet" looking for models, when in reality many models find us all on their own, then start advertising "C cup!" when in fact they're lucky to fill an A...

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    Can post this here... But here goes...






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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    It's interesting how it's the photographers who "scour the internet" looking for models, when in reality many models find us all on their own, then start advertising "C cup!" when in fact they're lucky to fill an A...
    glad you still remember that!
    it's like a normal lancer who puts on a evo kit and think they can fool others.
    it's sad.

    so, when it is photographers turn to be interviewed and glamourised in TNP?
    so far, the public only hears the XMM/models wannabe side of the story.

    i just hope the public will not be as shallow to just think a guy or girl with camera just want to shoot for the sake of getting closer to cheap porn.

    i dont know about you guys.
    but IF i am a guy, averal is somebody i wouldnt want to even shoot, not to even mention shooting lingerie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excel-glsi View Post
    Can post this here... But here goes...





    ah this time they got to the heart of the problem. the bad eggs who give this place a black eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeanie View Post
    i dont know about you guys.
    but IF i am a guy, averal is somebody i wouldnt want to even shoot, not to even mention shooting lingerie.
    is she underage or what?
    always the Light, .... always.

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    Heheheeh, your opinion is based on the picture in the TNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeanie View Post
    i dont know about you guys.
    but IF i am a guy, averal is somebody i wouldnt want to even shoot, not to even mention shooting lingerie.

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    According to TNP, she's 20

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    is she underage or what?

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    What I find funny is that she objects to getting flamed for her posts, yet she's not even posting to the right crowd. Fancy putting up posts on models in a photographer's forum :P Its akin to posting warnings about investment products and High Notes on the DBS website and not expecting to be flamed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeanie View Post
    glad you still remember that!
    it's like a normal lancer who puts on a evo kit and think they can fool others.
    it's sad.

    so, when it is photographers turn to be interviewed and glamourised in TNP?
    so far, the public only hears the XMM/models wannabe side of the story.

    i just hope the public will not be as shallow to just think a guy or girl with camera just want to shoot for the sake of getting closer to cheap porn.

    i dont know about you guys.
    but IF i am a guy, averal is somebody i wouldnt want to even shoot, not to even mention shooting lingerie.
    hey i'm not like averal's supporter or anything, but that was uncalled for la, personal attack man.. i don't agree with some of the things she said about guys (in the case of mattlock's thread with the ac boy and 4 girls) but i feel in this case, she meant well? some time ago i remember trying to warn a friend about all these kind of things but she didn't want to listen..so too bad la...anyway, it's not as if averal is saying stop these shoots..just be more wary...nothing wrong with being more cautious..really a lot of hum sup people around la...i remember there's a video taken of my friend at sitex and the camera man was like just like panning going up and down her body...sick la...i for one am glad this article came out...cs now is quite different (sometimes not in a very good way) from what i remember it used to be a few years back..

    i'm really a big fan of this jap guy on flickr called tommyoshima..he does some really tasteful photography..with models of course...would be really awesome if more csers could try something along those lines rather than the usual run of the mill shoot at the beach wear bikini/cutsey pose/whatever...

    do check out his stuff
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyoshima/

    this guy too
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwardolive/

    just to be clear, i'm not against model shoots, in case some might think i am..i just feel they need to be more tastefully done...or be less generic. most of the time the comments given about the photo is really just about how good the model looks, rather than composition/concept of the photo

    shooting aunties is cool too... think mattlock did one before, if i'm not mistaken... some aunty lying on the counter of the old mitre hotel. that was creative and quirky

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    the photg whom only shoots bikini/lingerie only sounds very familar... Not to forget his trademark pose (to have the model on all fours)...

    Anyway, there are plenty of photog or GWCs here in CS whom shoots alot of XMMs... Just visit their online albums...
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    Quote Originally Posted by agentmonkey View Post
    hey i'm not like averal's supporter or anything, but that was uncalled for la, personal attack man.. i don't agree with some of the things she said about guys (in the case of mattlock's thread with the ac boy and 4 girls) but i feel in this case, she meant well? some time ago i remember trying to warn a friend about all these kind of things but she didn't want to listen..so too bad la...anyway, it's not as if averal is saying stop these shoots..just be more wary...nothing wrong with being more cautious..really a lot of hum sup people around la...i remember there's a video taken of my friend at sitex and the camera man was like just like panning going up and down her body...sick la...i for one am glad this article came out...cs now is quite different (sometimes not in a very good way) from what i remember it used to be a few years back..

    i'm really a big fan of this jap guy on flickr called tommyoshima..he does some really tasteful photography..with models of course...would be really awesome if more csers could try something along those lines rather than the usual run of the mill shoot at the beach wear bikini/cutsey pose/whatever...

    do check out his stuff
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyoshima/

    this guy too
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwardolive/

    just to be clear, i'm not against model shoots, in case some might think i am..i just feel they need to be more tastefully done...or be less generic. most of the time the comments given about the photo is really just about how good the model looks, rather than composition/concept of the photo

    shooting aunties is cool too... think mattlock did one before, if i'm not mistaken... some aunty lying on the counter of the old mitre hotel. that was creative and quirky
    that thing that averal attacked mattlock on was completely unrelated to what tnp interviewed her about. she was lecturing jing on male chauvinism...man i had thought averal was older but man am i surprised to see that she's only 20 that she had the guts to speak out in that article but she'd better be prepared to deal with the fallout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post

    on another note, the term GUYS WITH CAMERAS is now official

    no, SGWC is official ..... Sleazy Guy With Cam ....
    always the Light, .... always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canonised View Post
    no, SGWC is official ..... Sleazy Guy With Cam ....
    I LOLed... Erh, I thought last sunday one use the term "Lens man"???
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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    Heheheeh, your opinion is based on the picture in the TNP?
    Picture carefully selected to adjust the mood of the article.

    BUT.... the newspaper seem to be written in such way which sounds like they're blaming the photogs... But what about the models? They themselves allow themselves to be shot. It's not like the photog is pointing a gun to the model's head forcing them to do lingerie.

    It's the model who offer themselves up to such things. If they don't want to do such things, don't do them in the first place. Of course the "molesters" must be punished as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    So true....but its always easier to start a witch hunt on wolfish male photographers, than to do the same for slutty female models.
    its just playing up gender stereotypes, its not like the gals were conned into modelling for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soeypixels View Post
    the photos are from a CS-er
    so did TNP get permission?
    The CSer need to claim the copyright of the photo.................

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    these less than half baked XMMs should be thankful they get paid in $$$ for their time, there was a time photogs were offered oni food & drinks for their work...

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    objectively, both are to be blamed..the demand starts from the photographers who are willing to pay for these sleazy shoots... these xmms want the money...and it's easy money for them just pose here and there...

    seriously got to suspect the intentions of some photogs man...regarding same friend i mentioned earlier..one of them asked her to go to his studio late at night cos he's only free then for the shoot..wth right? good thing she had the common sense not to go for that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuestion View Post
    that thing that averal attacked mattlock on was completely unrelated to what tnp interviewed her about. she was lecturing jing on male chauvinism...man i had thought averal was older but man am i surprised to see that she's only 20 that she had the guts to speak out in that article but she'd better be prepared to deal with the fallout.
    got to agree with that..she's got guts... and it's hard for people to accept the ugly truth...already there are some who are understandably upset

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentmonkey View Post
    got to agree with that..she's got guts... and it's hard for people to accept the ugly truth...already there are some who are understandably upset
    but i do think she reacts to the silliest things. that thing with mattlock was so trival!
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