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    Retrench only as 'last resort'

    Govt, employers and unions urge companies to use other measures to manage excess workers.

    Wed, Nov 19, 2008
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    THE tripartite partners of the Government, employers and unions are urging companies with excess staff to consider retrenchment only as a last resort.

    Instead, they should consider redeploying the workers to other areas of work, implementing a shorter working week or sending the workers for skills training, said Acting Manpower Minister Gan Kim Yong in a written reply to Parliament yesterday.

    Companies can also manage their wage costs by using the flexible wage system or implementing temporary layoffs, Mr Gan said.

    He was responding to questions from Dr Lim Wee Kiak, Member of Parliament for Sembawang GRC, who asked about the ministry's plans for helping workers in view of the expected rise in unemployment.

    However, retrenchments may be inevitable for some companies, even if all the measures to avoid layoffs are implemented, Mr Gan said.

    In such situations, companies are encouraged to discuss with their unions and theMinistry of Manpower (MOM) to ensure that retrenchment would be carried out responsibly and smoothly, he said.

    'Non-unionised workers who are affected by retrenchment can also seek advice and assistance from MOM.'

    He said that this approach to managing excess staff is detailed in the revised Tripartite Guidelines on Managing Excess Manpower, which MOM will release today.

    'We urge companies to apply these guidelines and take a longer- term view to managing their manpower,' said the minister.

    He added that the tripartite partners will closely monitor the employment situation in affected sectors. They will step up efforts to help companies and affected workers cope with the downturn.

    Mr Gan also said that the tripartite partners will help retrenched workers find suitable jobs and, where necessary, help them upgrade their skills to improve their chances of securing another job.

    'Retrenched workers and other jobseekers could be deployed to sectors which are still hiring and have strong growth prospects,' he said.

    'For example, it is estimated that the retail industry will need at least several thousand retail workers once Ion Orchard, Orchard Central and the integrated resorts are open.'

    Details of a new initiative called the Skills Programme for Upgrading and Resilience, which will include a loan-access scheme for businesses and a new training programme for workers, will be announced soon.

    Source :http://www.asiaone.com/print/Busines...19-101721.html

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    Companies are not obligated to follow, DBS is one such example.

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    u took the words right out of my mouth.
    photography makes one sees things from all angles.

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    it has to be a two ways thing.

    If you don't want the company to do retrenchment, then employees should also be agreeable to certain measures taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa View Post
    it has to be a two ways thing.

    If you don't want the company to do retrenchment, then employees should also be agreeable to certain measures taken.
    most employees have little to no choice but to agree to those terms.

    i do not recall any resistance to most "bitter pills" handed out. correct me if i am wrong.


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    This is just BS and wayang wayang, it's not legislation so companies can just treat it as "ear-side wind".



    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa View Post
    Retrench only as 'last resort'

    Govt, employers and unions urge companies to use other measures to manage excess workers.

    Wed, Nov 19, 2008
    my paper

    THE tripartite partners of the Government, employers and unions are urging companies with excess staff to consider retrenchment only as a last resort.

    Instead, they should consider redeploying the workers to other areas of work, implementing a shorter working week or sending the workers for skills training, said Acting Manpower Minister Gan Kim Yong in a written reply to Parliament yesterday.

    Companies can also manage their wage costs by using the flexible wage system or implementing temporary layoffs, Mr Gan said.

    He was responding to questions from Dr Lim Wee Kiak, Member of Parliament for Sembawang GRC, who asked about the ministry's plans for helping workers in view of the expected rise in unemployment.

    However, retrenchments may be inevitable for some companies, even if all the measures to avoid layoffs are implemented, Mr Gan said.

    In such situations, companies are encouraged to discuss with their unions and theMinistry of Manpower (MOM) to ensure that retrenchment would be carried out responsibly and smoothly, he said.

    'Non-unionised workers who are affected by retrenchment can also seek advice and assistance from MOM.'

    He said that this approach to managing excess staff is detailed in the revised Tripartite Guidelines on Managing Excess Manpower, which MOM will release today.

    'We urge companies to apply these guidelines and take a longer- term view to managing their manpower,' said the minister.

    He added that the tripartite partners will closely monitor the employment situation in affected sectors. They will step up efforts to help companies and affected workers cope with the downturn.

    Mr Gan also said that the tripartite partners will help retrenched workers find suitable jobs and, where necessary, help them upgrade their skills to improve their chances of securing another job.

    'Retrenched workers and other jobseekers could be deployed to sectors which are still hiring and have strong growth prospects,' he said.

    'For example, it is estimated that the retail industry will need at least several thousand retail workers once Ion Orchard, Orchard Central and the integrated resorts are open.'

    Details of a new initiative called the Skills Programme for Upgrading and Resilience, which will include a loan-access scheme for businesses and a new training programme for workers, will be announced soon.

    Source :http://www.asiaone.com/print/Busines...19-101721.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by sORe-EyEz View Post
    most employees have little to no choice but to agree to those terms.

    i do not recall any resistance to most "bitter pills" handed out. correct me if i am wrong.

    like u said "most".

    I know some employers who are selling their personal properties, going into debts and borrowing money from family members, and yet some employees are still slacking and behaving that they are the bosses, and the employers earn alot because of them.

    Give me a break! U don't want to get retrenched, then work with the company. Not against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waileong View Post
    This is just BS and wayang wayang, it's not legislation so companies can just treat it as "ear-side wind".
    You have to look at it as who is the target audience? general populace, wayang wayang lah.

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    just guidelines only..read and forget.

    Singapore NOL announced job cut next...
    http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200811...l-c3bb44c.html.

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    You mean they even read?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lenscapes View Post
    just guidelines only..read and forget.

    Singapore NOL announced job cut next...
    http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200811...l-c3bb44c.html.

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    Not many companies will listen to govt. They just read the papers : "Recession, job cuts" and they follow suit.
    I'm here to learn.:flame:

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    Let's make retrenchment a crime punishable by law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    Let's make retrenchment a crime punishable by law.
    yes, the company owners should just sink deeper into debt to make sure that they won't have to retrench people

    at the end of the day, when they declare bankruptcy and have to shut down the entire company anyways, at least they have the warm fuzzy feeling in their hearts that they had given all the workers a few more months of pay.

    while we're at it, why not sneak in a few more rules, like how bosses should buy their workers coffee and lunch and dinner.

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    Put it this way from a business point of view, retrenchment is a effective way of cutting cost immediately. And if the govt just talk.... put it this way, it's just talk. They are not going to help companies who keep their staff.

    So retrenchment is the way to go for big corporations that are bleeding to death. Rather a few die than the whole company die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aeskywan View Post
    Put it this way from a business point of view, retrenchment is a effective way of cutting cost immediately. And if the govt just talk.... put it this way, it's just talk. They are not going to help companies who keep their staff.
    i also wonder how the "not-general-populace" thinks that the government should help companies to edge away from retrenchment.

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    General populace knows, just don't wayang wayang. We are not dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azul123 View Post
    You have to look at it as who is the target audience? general populace, wayang wayang lah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azul123 View Post
    General populace knows, just don't wayang wayang. We are not dumb.

    ../azul123
    and thus your argument is.. a little self-defeating.

    just a little. but never mind. knows what, btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    and thus your argument is.. a little self-defeating.

    just a little. but never mind. knows what, btw?
    People knows but yet they thinking old trick still works... so they are out of touch and don't know it. My point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenscapes View Post
    just guidelines only..read and forget.

    Singapore NOL announced job cut next...
    http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200811...l-c3bb44c.html.
    Corret me if I'm wrong... isn't NOL held to 2/3 (and thus a controlling majority) by Temasek Holdings? What does it say if the government linked company ignores the government's request?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleWolf View Post
    Corret me if I'm wrong... isn't NOL held to 2/3 (and thus a controlling majority) by Temasek Holdings? What does it say if the government linked company ignores the government's request?
    it goes to show 1 should never trust a 2-headed ogre?

    *sharing a link does not make them 1?

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