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    i am a nikon d80 user very into CLS. however its nt possible to get ANYMOre extra sb600 or sb 800. too ex.
    so i am looking at other cheaper alternative like sb27 or some vivitar ones. are they any others? what are the prices?

    and do i need a adaptor for ythem?


    anyone interested in selling can quote me. budget best if around 120.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nlghtxx View Post
    i am a nikon d80 user very into CLS. however its nt possible to get ANYMOre extra sb600 or sb 800. too ex.
    so i am looking at other cheaper alternative like sb27 or some vivitar ones. are they any others? what are the prices?

    and do i need a adaptor for ythem?


    anyone interested in selling can quote me. budget best if around 120.
    With those, you will need to manually set them.

    You will not get TTL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zac08 View Post
    With those, you will need to manually set them.

    You will not get TTL.
    yea.
    In addition, you need to buy the radio/IR triggers to 'functionalise' them

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    A SU-4 receiver can also be used (on the cheap)
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    Quote Originally Posted by nlghtxx View Post
    i am a nikon d80 user very into CLS. however its nt possible to get ANYMOre extra sb600 or sb 800. too ex.
    so i am looking at other cheaper alternative like sb27 or some vivitar ones. are they any others? what are the prices?

    and do i need a adaptor for ythem?


    anyone interested in selling can quote me. budget best if around 120.
    why not rent...unless its an everyday affair?
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    Buy pre owned? I would save up and wait longer to get the things I want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nlghtxx View Post
    i am a nikon d80 user very into CLS. however its nt possible to get ANYMOre extra sb600 or sb 800. too ex.
    so i am looking at other cheaper alternative like sb27 or some vivitar ones. are they any others? what are the prices?

    and do i need a adaptor for ythem?


    anyone interested in selling can quote me. budget best if around 120.
    for other made or older Nikon flash, no TTL, no CLS.
    and multiple flash set up with other made flash or older Nikon flash, Auto mode will not always work, best is set to manual.

    beside flash units, you need either sync cable with hotshoe adaptor, optical slave, or wireless trigger set, so $120 is not enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    for other made or older Nikon flash, no TTL, no CLS.
    and multiple flash set up with other made flash or older Nikon flash, Auto mode will not always work, best is set to manual.

    beside flash units, you need either sync cable with hotshoe adaptor, optical slave, or wireless trigger set, so $120 is not enough.
    After you add up the total cost. You can get a SB600 and play with a peaceful mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnet6 View Post
    After you add up the total cost. You can get a SB600 and play with a peaceful mind.
    just buy a SB800 will have less @#$%#^^$


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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    just buy a SB800 will have less @#$%#^^$


    Why SB-800? The CLS interface for the SB-900 is even easier!

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    i see . thanks guys, thought vivitar and other flashes are dirt cheap. k i think i will get a sb 600.

    my reason for not getting sb800is because i just need a slave, i can use inbuilt to trigger the 2 sb 600,so i dont think i neeed sb800. on budget anyway.
    what do fellow TS who arre experience in CLS think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedalus Trent View Post
    Why SB-800? The CLS interface for the SB-900 is even easier!
    Absolutely concur!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nlghtxx View Post
    i see . thanks guys, thought vivitar and other flashes are dirt cheap. k i think i will get a sb 600.

    my reason for not getting sb800is because i just need a slave, i can use inbuilt to trigger the 2 sb 600,so i dont think i neeed sb800. on budget anyway.
    Thats true, though a SB800 as main will give more control than the built in flash, in terms of changeable angle, easier to add diffusers, gels, and of course, power.

    But your on a budget and probably have to make do, at least temporary, till saved enough for the SB900. So I will take the same route if I am you too.
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    there are such thing as flash triggered slaves like the sb-26 which i found quite popular . a wedding photographer who was using a canon was using an sb-26 and i was surprised by it . i didnt know sb-26 was cappable of wireless trigger by flash.

    HOWEVER, do note you gotta manually set the flash to the ISO settings , etc manually.

    i have 2 slave flashes.. Emoblitzs which are triggered when my flash fires. it takes a while before you get used to it.

    but if you have the cash, please, by all means.. CLS is the way to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    just buy a SB800 will have less @#$%#^^$


    ...

    Presume that he wants to get new... so SB800 is hard to find new now. So SB900

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    Quote Originally Posted by nlghtxx View Post
    i see . thanks guys, thought vivitar and other flashes are dirt cheap. k i think i will get a sb 600.

    my reason for not getting sb800is because i just need a slave, i can use inbuilt to trigger the 2 sb 600,so i dont think i neeed sb800. on budget anyway.
    what do fellow TS who arre experience in CLS think?
    Nah, was just kidding

    The SB-600 is an excellent slave, since the extra power of the SB-800 isn't that necessary

    Owned 2 SB-600s a while back (till i upgraded one to a 800) quite easy to use

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    Quote Originally Posted by nlghtxx View Post
    i see . thanks guys, thought vivitar and other flashes are dirt cheap. k i think i will get a sb 600.

    my reason for not getting sb800is because i just need a slave, i can use inbuilt to trigger the 2 sb 600,so i dont think i neeed sb800. on budget anyway.
    what do fellow TS who arre experience in CLS think?
    if you want to work on manual flash mode, you can consider other made flash or old nikon flash unit, but $120 won't get you much things.

    is it more reliable to get a radio trigger instead of using inbuilt flash to trigger off camera flash units, since you may cut down the power output of inbuilt flash, and also the placement of off camera flash may not in the line of sight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    if you want to work on manual flash mode, you can consider other made flash or old nikon flash unit, but $120 won't get you much things.

    is it more reliable to get a radio trigger instead of using inbuilt flash to trigger off camera flash units, since you may cut down the power output of inbuilt flash, and also the placement of off camera flash may not in the line of sight.
    how much does a radio trigger cost? on budget .
    placement of off camera flash may not in the line of sight? can explain? dont really understand. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nlghtxx View Post
    how much does a radio trigger cost? on budget .
    placement of off camera flash may not in the line of sight? can explain? dont really understand. thanks.
    Radio trigger prices varies from brands to brand, can be expensive or cheap. Look at tagotech.com for the budget units.

    The off camera flash units need to be triggered by the camera built in flash (commander), so the slave units got to be positioned within an 180degrees angle in front of the camera (the line of sight). Even so, there a times when my on-camera flash failed to trigger my SB600, even when its within range and angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjackal View Post
    The off camera flash units need to be triggered by the camera built in flash (commander), so the slave units got to be positioned within an 180degrees angle in front of the camera (the line of sight). Even so, there a times when my on-camera flash failed to trigger my SB600, even when its within range and angle.

    180 degree angle? You sure? Maybe you ought to read your manual again...

    as for failure to trigger, if the ambient light is too bright, the flash's sensor may not be able to detect commander flash
    (hmm...sounds like some superhero...)

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