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Old 18th November 2008   #1
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Default Canon 400D - Vibrant colors?

Hi all,

I've been using a 400D for about half a year and I am very happy with it.

HOwever, i found that the color is not very vibrant. COmpared to my friends D80, hen shooting in VIBRANT MODE, 400D pales in comparison.

Any 400D users can enlighten me on achieving better colors, apart from PP?

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Old 18th November 2008   #2
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Canon's approach is different from Nikon's. Canon always give neutral colour whereas Nikon's give a punchy colours. However, you should know that digital sensor does not capture 100% colour, it able to capture around 70% to 75% of colours. This can overcome by using editing software such as Photoshop. You can adjust the colours by playing around with the in-camera's saturation, contrast, sharpness, etc... But for me I'm using standard so that I have maximum controls on the colours.
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Default Re: Canon 400D - Vibrant colors?

lenses have a apart to play as well.
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You can play around with the settings in picture styles and bump up saturation...
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Originally Posted by Russ View Post
You can play around with the settings in picture styles and bump up saturation...
personally to me, that doesn't really make Much of a difference.
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if you're refering to JPGs straight out from camera, you should try to pick up a cheap second hand Fuji S5 Pro and try the Velvia film simulation.

Otherwise, you just have to tweak the parameters in the camera. You can also try shooting under exposed slightly. Or use L lenses, which generally gives more saturated colours and better constrast...or use a polarizer.
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Originally Posted by paisatge View Post
if you're refering to JPGs straight out from camera, you should try to pick up a cheap second hand Fuji S5 Pro and try the Velvia film simulation.

Otherwise, you just have to tweak the parameters in the camera. You can also try shooting under exposed slightly. Or use L lenses, which generally gives more saturated colours and better constrast...or use a polarizer.
Why would you want to shoot your pics underexposed?
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Originally Posted by pplneedthelord View Post
Why would you want to shoot your pics underexposed?
Because digital sensors respond a lot like slide film; slight underexposure gives rise to greater saturation.
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Default Re: Canon 400D - Vibrant colors?

I definitely agree with this too! This colour issue really made me wonder if I should continue investing in canon or change system while it's still early for me.
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Originally Posted by thewaterisdeep View Post
I definitely agree with this too! This colour issue really made me wonder if I should continue investing in canon or change system while it's still early for me.
Come on. Be realistic, no matter which system you get, you will have some tweaking to do. Using Nikon's higher range of cameras, such as the D300 and D3, I get very neutral results. What I like about neutral results is that it's completely up to you to add punch, contrast, vibrance, additional saturation and so forth.

The end result is completely at your control in post, not left to the mercy of some camera's internal processing chip, which is not entirely bad, but definitely not as advantageous as controlling it on a computer, doing proper post-work, on a screen where you can actually judge contrast and colour better than on a teeny 3" screen.
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Originally Posted by calebk View Post
Because digital sensors respond a lot like slide film; slight underexposure gives rise to greater saturation.

but while post processing wouldn't there be like a lost in colours?
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Originally Posted by pplneedthelord View Post
but while post processing wouldn't there be like a lost in colours?
By slight underexposure, I'm referring to as slight as 1/3 stop, usually not more than a stop underexposed.
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Originally Posted by calebk View Post
By slight underexposure, I'm referring to as slight as 1/3 stop, usually not more than a stop underexposed.
Yep... I like to shoot at -1/3EV. Every sensor as a dynamic range, and by going about -1/3EV, I am trying to capture the details, which at PP time, I can do some enhancement work.

Anyway... I find the 5D has great colors... one of the best around... but the 40D also does not produce that great colors...
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i owned 400D and currently 50D...the colour really different and i really like 50D colour!
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Somebody on this thread is pretty humorous.
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Originally Posted by PyeeL View Post
Somebody on this thread is pretty humorous.
er.. who?
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Originally Posted by Redkangoo View Post
i owned 400D and currently 50D...the colour really different and i really like 50D colour!
Yep... the 50D colors are much better than the 40D
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Originally Posted by PyeeL View Post
Somebody on this thread is pretty humorous.
He is refering to me..just my own opinion and preference from my own judgement..ppl can find it funny!
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Default Re: Canon 400D - Vibrant colors?

Canon's colours are not dull, they are just accurate. Having tried both systems, Canon is still my choice as i can always tweak the colours through PP. Its the superior image quality that matters most to me.
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