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    Just confused on this part
    sunny --> f16 1/100
    cloudy --> need more light hence change ONE variable

    But don't you need to change TWO variables ?
    ie:

    Aperture change:
    f11 1/125
    shouldn't it be f11 1/250 ?
    (shutter changed to compensate aperture change)

    Shuttter change:
    f16 1/60
    shouldn't it be f22 1/60 ?
    (aperture changed to compensate shutter change)

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    Quote Originally Posted by myloplex
    Just confused on this part
    sunny --> f16 1/100
    cloudy --> need more light hence change ONE variable

    But don't you need to change TWO variables ?
    ie:

    Aperture change:
    f11 1/125
    shouldn't it be f11 1/250 ?
    (shutter changed to compensate aperture change)

    Shuttter change:
    f16 1/60
    shouldn't it be f22 1/60 ?
    (aperture changed to compensate shutter change)
    You change 1 variable to effect more light into the cam.

    If you change both variables, you are merely having the same exposure with diff aperture and shutter setting.

    Unless for eg aperture change, you do a f11, 1/250, you are balanced off thru increasing the shutter (decreasing light) and opening up
    (f16->f11)

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    Quote Originally Posted by myloplex
    Just confused on this part
    sunny --> f16 1/100
    cloudy --> need more light hence change ONE variable

    But don't you need to change TWO variables ?
    ie:

    Aperture change:
    f11 1/125
    shouldn't it be f11 1/250 ?
    (shutter changed to compensate aperture change)

    Shuttter change:
    f16 1/60
    shouldn't it be f22 1/60 ?
    (aperture changed to compensate shutter change)
    You change 1 variable to effect more light into the cam.

    If you change both variables, you are merely having the same exposure with diff aperture and shutter setting.

    Unless for eg aperture change, you do a f11, 1/250, you are balanced off thru increasing the shutter (decreasing light) and opening up
    (f16->f11)

    You must also remember that f16, 1/100s refers to ISO 100.

    If you are using ISO 400, your shutter follows 1/400s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLights
    You change 1 variable to effect more light into the cam.

    If you change both variables, you are merely having the same exposure with diff aperture and shutter setting.

    Unless for eg aperture change, you do a f11, 1/250, you are balanced off thru increasing the shutter (decreasing light) and opening up
    (f16->f11)

    You must also remember that f16, 1/100s refers to ISO 100.

    If you are using ISO 400, your shutter follows 1/400s.
    For non-mid tonal shots like snow, white swan, white polar bear in a white snowy landscape, f/16 rule becomes f/22 rule.

    f/22, shutter = 1/100s, ISO 100.

    You can check out my snow mountain shots...all shot with f22 rule.

    In my architectural landscape shots, Chymes building was shot with sunny f16 rule. Perfect exposure with no need for post processing.

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    Step one of using the Ultimate Exposure Computer states that you should switch to manual mode. The Ultimate Exposure Computer will not be able to control the camera in any other modes.

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    myloplex:

    Try picking up a book on photography. It's easier to read a book than a page online, and these books probably explains exposure concepts much better than most of us here. It'll be easier to understand.

    After that, read that page on the Untimate Exposure Computer again and you'll be able to make use of that :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by myloplex
    Just confused on this part
    sunny --> f16 1/100
    cloudy --> need more light hence change ONE variable

    But don't you need to change TWO variables ?
    ie:

    Aperture change:
    f11 1/125
    shouldn't it be f11 1/250 ?
    (shutter changed to compensate aperture change)

    Shuttter change:
    f16 1/60
    shouldn't it be f22 1/60 ?
    (aperture changed to compensate shutter change)
    you have just pointed out the key to answer your question... "cloudy --> NEED MORE LIGHT..."

    if conditions were sunny, f16 1/125 is acceptable exposure setting. But it's not sunny, it's CLOUDY, hence need more light.

    f16 1/125 is the same exposure as f11 1/250 and f22 1/60 it's for sunny situations. But you have cloudy conditions, so you'd want more light to strike the film, so you either open up your aperture, but retain the speed, or slow down the shutter but retain your aperture. in either case, only 1 variable is changed. You want MORE light because it's not actually sunny. Get it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patch17
    you have just pointed out the key to answer your question... "cloudy --> NEED MORE LIGHT..."

    if conditions were sunny, f16 1/125 is acceptable exposure setting. But it's not sunny, it's CLOUDY, hence need more light.

    f16 1/125 is the same exposure as f11 1/250 and f22 1/60 it's for sunny situations. But you have cloudy conditions, so you'd want more light to strike the film, so you either open up your aperture, but retain the speed, or slow down the shutter but retain your aperture. in either case, only 1 variable is changed. You want MORE light because it's not actually sunny. Get it?
    yeah .. got it ... so you cannot acutally use Tv or Av mode for the sunny 16 rule yah.
    e.g in AV mode, if you step down f16 to f11 ..the shutter will also compensate automatically giving you the same exposure at f16 1/125 which you do not want as you need more light.

    Hence use manual mode...correct ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by myloplex
    yeah .. got it ... so you cannot acutally use Tv or Av mode for the sunny 16 rule yah.
    e.g in AV mode, if you step down f16 to f11 ..the shutter will also compensate automatically giving you the same exposure at f16 1/125 which you do not want as you need more light.

    Hence use manual mode...correct ?
    Aiyah, your cam will not give you automatic f16 and 1/125 lah, provided you are metering the middle tone color on sunny day. Thats why knowing proper metering is very important. Here see your own thread: http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=43752

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    Quote Originally Posted by myloplex
    yeah .. got it ... so you cannot acutally use Tv or Av mode for the sunny 16 rule yah.
    e.g in AV mode, if you step down f16 to f11 ..the shutter will also compensate automatically giving you the same exposure at f16 1/125 which you do not want as you need more light.

    Hence use manual mode...correct ?
    You mean after all this while...

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    Quote Originally Posted by myloplex
    yeah .. got it ... so you cannot acutally use Tv or Av mode for the sunny 16 rule yah.
    e.g in AV mode, if you step down f16 to f11 ..the shutter will also compensate automatically giving you the same exposure at f16 1/125 which you do not want as you need more light.

    Hence use manual mode...correct ?
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