E3 versus E30 Kit

[mactigasuku]

If the following Kits are the same price:

1. E3 with 12-60/f2.8-4 SWD lens.

2. E30 with 14-54/f2.8-3.5 II lens.

[Ramon Ortiz-Luis]

i would still the get the e-3

the performance of the 12-60 lens has been well tested while the build quality of the e-3 is pretty good

[mactigasuku]

Originally Posted by OlyFlyer The E-30 won't have the same price. E-3 + 12-60 will be higher priced than the E-30. The E-30 is not a replacement for E-3, just a little sister of it.

At the est price of US$1299 body only, it is about the same price as the E3 body now in SG.

I am not suggesting that the E30 replaces the E3 .... just that if both were the same price .....

[mactigasuku]

By Jan 2009, I suspect the E3 body will actually be cheaper than the debuting E30 body ... and to sweeten the deal, the above kit may be offered .....

[egnaro]

a pro vs a semi pro body? a SWD vs a non SWD lens?

in term of body built, E3 win.

in term of spec, E30 have slightly more interesting thing coming.

we have not know if the shutter window is the same, better or worse then E3.

we may still say E3 is better but till really have to hand on ourself then can make comparison.

[drakon09]

Personally I'd suggest you fellas wait a year for the next E-X, especially current E-3 owners...

[mojims]

If they were the same price, I would vote for the E-3 + 12-60.... (hence my vote)

... but like that would happen!!! C'mon... 12-60 is much much more expensive than 14-54 leh...

... that's y realistically, I'll still vying for the E-30...

[inxtrm]

weather proof is bigtime when it comes to performance.still E3

[mojims]

Originally Posted by inxtrm weather proof is bigtime when it comes to performance.still E3

I don't see how weather proofing is related to performance... it's more like an added protection rather that contributing to performance...

[VR Man]

Originally Posted by mojims I don't see how weather proofing is related to performance... it's more like an added protection rather that contributing to performance...

Performance of photographer

[drakon09]

Originally Posted by mojims I don't see how weather proofing is related to performance... it's more like an added protection rather that contributing to performance...

It allows you to go places where others fear to tread, like under a waterfall in Lombok...

[microcosm]

Originally Posted by drakon09 It allows you to go places where others fear to tread, like under a waterfall in Lombok...

Or be crazy like me... for those who remembered I dropped the E-3 on hard concrete floor at the outing at SBG... weather sealed and built tough, so that you can shoot wherever you want to, any time you want to...

[mactigasuku]

How often is it that weather sealing matters? Not disparaging it .... just somehow feels that it is not meant for everyone ..... again back to my analogy of a SUV type performance versus a sedan car.

Right now, e.g. if I can get better DR and ISO performance for taking pics of my sleeping/moving baby without flash I'll certainly not miss weather sealing a bit.

[mactigasuku]

Originally Posted by egnaro a pro vs a semi pro body? a SWD vs a non SWD lens? in term of body built, E3 win. in term of spec, E30 have slightly more interesting thing coming. we have not know if the shutter window is the same, better or worse then E3. we may still say E3 is better but till really have to hand on ourself then can make comparison.

A "Pro" body may not be the best body for everyone. Given 1D or D3, my wife would use those as a murder weapon for me Me ... I'll sell it and get something else more compact. The first reason I fell in love with Olympus as a brand was the OM-1. And I still do not see photography as a replacement for proper exercise

Body wise the Evo/WRX may be "tougher" than a BMW 3 coupe/Audi TT ....and faster, too. But again my point that there are many ways to get from point A to point B. Prime example is Adrewine's use of the E510 with kit lenses .... any telling that the E510 used as it is by him a less "pro" camera" than the E3?

[mactigasuku]

Originally Posted by drakon09 .... wait a year for the next E-X, especially current E-3 owners...

A year .... a 3 kg newborn with eyes that doesn't focus to a baby that gurgles and sucks to a crawling baby to a one that attempts to stand and walk .... lots of pictures here ....

Or 2 trips .... one to Greece and another to Australia .......

Or another National Day, another trip to the Zoo, a picnic in East Coast, another Airshow ....

Or another 12 outings with the gang .....

Or another 365 sunrise and sunset ....... 4 seasons ......

[drakon09]

Originally Posted by mactigasuku A year .... a 3 kg newborn with eyes that doesn't focus to a baby that gurgles and sucks to a crawling baby to a one that attempts to stand and walk .... lots of pictures here .... Or 2 trips .... one to Greece and another to Australia ....... Or another National Day, another trip to the Zoo, a picnic in East Coast, another Airshow .... Or another 12 outings with the gang ..... Or another 365 sunrise and sunset ....... 4 seasons ......

Nah, my point is if you already own an E-3, don't bother with the E-30.

[srinivasanj]

Good that this came about since I was getting really confused over which is actually better...

Personally, apart from the weather sealed body, OVF (not a big diff) I think the E30 looks better than the E3. If the price is significantly different, say around 300 USD when the kit comes out, this would be something worthwhile. More importantly, Olympus is still marketing this as mid-range. Is it significantly better than the E-520...yes. Is it significantly lower than the E3....I would have to say no.

I would take up the E30 kit since I dont feel that the E3 has a lot more to offer over the E30

[drakon09]

Originally Posted by srinivasanj Good that this came about since I was getting really confused over which is actually better... Personally, apart from the weather sealed body, OVF (not a big diff) I think the E30 looks better than the E3. If the price is significantly different, say around 300 USD when the kit comes out, this would be something worthwhile. More importantly, Olympus is still marketing this as mid-range. Is it significantly better than the E-520...yes. Is it significantly lower than the E3....I would have to say no. I would take up the E30 kit since I dont feel that the E3 has a lot more to offer over the E30

Well, you need to understand that the E-30 would be the mid-range body to the next E-X.

The E-30 is almost identical to the E-3 because they probably share the same components - AF sensor, lens mount, mirror box, shutter unit, flash unit, vertical grip, memory card interface etc.

Components which are obviously different are the 12mp sensor (indicating that the 10mp ones are out of production already), the smaller prism to give the E-30 a lower profile, and the 2.7" LCD screen (which don't make much of a difference anyway - it's still 230k pixels).

It makes perfect sense for Oly to use the E-3 components in the E-30; saves them R & D
resources, production lines need not be completely retooled - basically it's all profit from here.

More importantly, it allows Oly to put full attention into the real new products - micro 4/3 and the next E-X.

[srinivasanj]

Originally Posted by drakon09 Well, you need to understand that the E-30 would be the mid-range body to the next E-X.

That is my question. Why is this a mid range and the E3 top of the range? Where is the E3 in comparison to the E30? Pardon me if this is getting a bit long in the tooth.

Apart from a superior body I really cant see the E3 standing out and find it difficult to understand why the pricing would be higher for the E3. Like you have mentioned, Oly would still market this as mid range probably only because there was not a lot of R&D involved.

This body is more mobile than the E3 , lighter and a wee bit smaller, offers better resolution, new software as well (??).

I am looking from a consumer's perspective and why choosing the E30 over the E3 is justified...

[spidey89]

[quote=srinivasanj;4498809]

Originally Posted by drakon09 Well, you need to understand that the E-30 would be the mid-range body to the next E-X. QUOTE] That is my question. Why is this a mid range and the E3 top of the range? Where is the E3 in comparison to the E30? Pardon me if this is getting a bit long in the tooth. Apart from a superior body I really cant see the E3 standing out and find it difficult to understand why the pricing would be higher for the E3. Like you have mentioned, Oly would still market this as mid range probably only because there was not a lot of R&D involved. This body is more mobile than the E3 , lighter and a wee bit smaller, offers better resolution, new software as well (??).

from what I see and can understand,you're feeling E-3 is no much superior to E-30 other than body and that the E-30 seems more superior than E-3,but considering that E-3 was launched what?last year?and E-30 is not on the market yet.That is why E-3 is top of the range.

Imagine about 4 years ago,E-1 was out first,followed by E-300,E-300 seemed better than E-1 in terms of specs,but other than that,probably only diff between the 2 is that E-1 is weather proofed and I'm not so sure about E-300