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Old 3rd November 2008   #1
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Default WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

What is the main difference between this two lens? Price diff is not very big. Also anybody knows the current price for both of this lens, both brand new and second hand.
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Old 4th November 2008   #2
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Default Re: WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

Sigma 12-24 can be used for FF
but I think the 10-22 only for Crop Cam.
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Old 4th November 2008   #3
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Default Re: WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

Originally Posted by ShyanL View Post
Sigma 12-24 can be used for FF
but I think the 10-22 only for Crop Cam.
Ok Thanks. Anyone who has used them and is more sure about that?
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Default Re: WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

I have own both lens before...

as per earlier mentioned, the Sigma 12-24mm is for Full Frame camera. While the 10-20mm is only APS-C sensor capable.

I should say that the Sigma 12-24mm is slightly sharper ( personal opinion only ). However, the draw back here is that this lens cannot use GND filter. Having a big front element at the front and not having a filter to protect it is very scary, I shoot landscapes often. And that is the reason I sold it away. Distortion is almost zero, you can shoot architecture having straight straight lines I prefer to stop down to F16 while shooting. Its a sharp lens, no doubt.

For the Sigma 10-20mm, its a much smaller lens. wide open is quite soft. Color reproduction is very good, when stop down to F8 or F16 produces sharp pictures also. If you are going to use crop factor bodies, this lens is for you. I sold it away because I find that I cannot use this lens for indoor event use ( F4-5.6 is not bright enough it seems ). When using GND filters, the vignetting is also very heavy.

some of my shots using Sigma 12-24mm
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=355130

Some of my shots using Sigma 10-20mm
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=400939
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=402472
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=412402
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415760
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Default Re: WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

EFS 10-22~~~~~!!!@@

The Sigma 10-20 is great lens as well. Cheers!
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Default Re: WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

This is the Sigma 10-20 on a EOS 30D:




My copy is sharp wide open.
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Default Re: WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

Thanks all, I'm currently using a 400D, Am intending to upgrade to 5D. Probably. So i think i should go for the 12-24?
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Default Re: WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

Originally Posted by hidden3 View Post
Thanks all, I'm currently using a 400D, Am intending to upgrade to 5D. Probably. So i think i should go for the 12-24?
Hehe, that the same idea I had too!
But trouble with 12-24mm as mentioned, is the spherical surface in front which make using a filters a hassle.
wonder if there are any new UWA coming out soon.

16-35mm is too bloody expensive
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Default Re: WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

Originally Posted by ShyanL View Post
Hehe, that the same idea I had too!
But trouble with 12-24mm as mentioned, is the spherical surface in front which make using a filters a hassle.
wonder if there are any new UWA coming out soon.

16-35mm is too bloody expensive
is it possible to use filters, or is there some way we can do to use them.
Yeah hope got new WA lens.

How about Tokina, the fisheye one?
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my copy of 10-20 is sharp wide open as well.
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Originally Posted by hidden3 View Post
is it possible to use filters, or is there some way we can do to use them.
Yeah hope got new WA lens.

How about Tokina, the fisheye one?
It's not a full-frame compatible lens. It is intended for APS-C format, but you can mount and use it on 1.3x and FF formats, albeit not with its full range. Vignetting performance may also be unpredictable.
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Originally Posted by calebk View Post
It's not a full-frame compatible lens.
It's a DX lens but usable on full-frame cameras above 15mm. Check this review out:

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/re...0/21/9459.html

It's in Japanese but there are sample pictures.
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Originally Posted by zhaowei View Post
It's a DX lens but usable on full-frame cameras above 15mm. Check this review out:

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/re...0/21/9459.html

It's in Japanese but there are sample pictures.
Haha. I should have made myself more specific.
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Originally Posted by calebk View Post
Haha. I should have made myself more specific.
Haha no worries. Anyway now I wished I bought the Tokina instead of the Nikon fisheye...

To TS: Do note that a fisheye is not a replacement for a UWA! And vice versa.
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Default Re: WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

Thanks all! So i think i most probably will get a 12-24mm. Hmmm
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Old 10th November 2008   #16
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Default Re: WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

now i can't make up my mind again, Sigma 10-20mm, EF-S 10-20mm, Or 12-24mm!! What are the price like? for each individual and secondhand. am thinking of getting secondhand though
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Default Re: WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

i am going to say here that this question has been asked, and answered, in exactly the same progression path only maybe 8 times in my existence

and those are the 8 threads i've decided to read. DO A SEARCH.

and as for buying decisions - make up your own mind. or ask your parents, or whoever supplies your finances. i don't see how anyone is going to affect your decision in any way, since there is no mind-numbing, earth-shaking information that you don't have at your fingertips already, if you take the trouble.

first hand price: call the shops, ask and compare. at most, 10 minutes work
second hand price: check B&S, keep a lookout, get your friends to keep a look out. minimal work

100% accurate because you got it from the horse's mouth.
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Old 10th November 2008   #18
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Default Re: WA lens : Sigma 10-20mm OR 12-24mm

Thanks, sigh. Now i'm asking myself why do i want this for. Maybe i should save this up and get something later on, when i really need it. Thanks anyway!
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