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    Default Evening at Lower pierce reservoir

    Took this pic at lower pierce reservoir, I tried to go very near to the water, angle a little downward to include the stones in the water. Exposure setting f11, 1.3s, ISO100 with CPL filter.
    Please help me on the following areas:
    1.There is a very bright spot on the upper right, is it acceptable? How to remove it?
    2.Is the pic under-exposed?
    3.Is the expousre enough to penetrate through the water to image the stones? Will longer exposure time helps?
    Any other comments to improve the pic is very much appreciated too.
    Thanks for ur time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jtsky View Post
    Took this pic at lower pierce reservoir, I tried to go very near to the water, angle a little downward to include the stones in the water. Exposure setting f11, 1.3s, ISO100 with CPL filter.
    Please help me on the following areas:
    1.There is a very bright spot on the upper right, is it acceptable? How to remove it?
    2.Is the pic under-exposed?
    3.Is the expousre enough to penetrate through the water to image the stones? Will longer exposure time helps?
    Any other comments to improve the pic is very much appreciated too.
    Thanks for ur time.

    angle not flattering to the image, cos the picture seem to have less than 1/4 sky, 1/2 rocks, but the rocks are not being shown in full, rather, they are only shown in the 1/8 of the lower area. so you got a big empty patch of water taking up 1/2 the image.

    rather you should put your camera low and use hyperfocal instead...

    1) No, if u want, you can use an ND grad instead of CPL (CPL useful in this instance only for seeing the stones under the water reflection. you either turn it to see reflection of the sky or see whats under)
    2) Exposure is ok, but overall lack of contrast... colors are fine
    3) Like above, you have to twist the CPL to view the rocks, if you are using DSLR, most likely you can see it thru the viewfinder. Longer exposure will not help, instead will make it less visible if there is moving waters above, you are lucky the water is still.

    If you really want the rocks to be seen you have to shoot at a higher angle. a ladder will help, or standing on a big boulder. that will be another composition altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt View Post
    angle not flattering to the image, cos the picture seem to have less than 1/4 sky, 1/2 rocks, but the rocks are not being shown in full, rather, they are only shown in the 1/8 of the lower area. so you got a big empty patch of water taking up 1/2 the image.

    rather you should put your camera low and use hyperfocal instead...

    1) No, if u want, you can use an ND grad instead of CPL (CPL useful in this instance only for seeing the stones under the water reflection. you either turn it to see reflection of the sky or see whats under)
    2) Exposure is ok, but overall lack of contrast... colors are fine
    3) Like above, you have to twist the CPL to view the rocks, if you are using DSLR, most likely you can see it thru the viewfinder. Longer exposure will not help, instead will make it less visible if there is moving waters above, you are lucky the water is still.

    If you really want the rocks to be seen you have to shoot at a higher angle. a ladder will help, or standing on a big boulder. that will be another composition altogether.
    Thanks very much Del_CtrlnoAlt for ur detail explanation. It is very helpful to me. Please pardon me as newbie and allow me to ask a few more questions, I tried to search for hyperfocal in web, and the understanding is that you will get the greatest depth of field when you focus your lens at its hyperfocal distance, does it mean by increasing the f stop?

    If I want to see under the water and lower the bright spot on the upper right, will it be helpful if I use the CPL and GND filter together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtsky View Post
    Thanks very much Del_CtrlnoAlt for ur detail explanation. It is very helpful to me. Please pardon me as newbie and allow me to ask a few more questions, I tried to search for hyperfocal in web, and the understanding is that you will get the greatest depth of field when you focus your lens at its hyperfocal distance, does it mean by increasing the f stop?

    If I want to see under the water and lower the bright spot on the upper right, will it be helpful if I use the CPL and GND filter together?
    yup, you can use CPL & ND grad together.

    hyperfocal is not just increasing f-stop, its utilising the maximum DOF with a given aperture.

    another method is probably using a tilt-shift lens to get everything sharp with a lower aperture so that you can retain lower iso and higher shutter speed.
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    IMHO;
    1- I'd rather not have the jetty on the left.
    2- Either to get more of the rocks or the water, or the sky
    3- I would have done it vertical.
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    Default Re: Evening at Lower pierce reservoir

    Thanks. will bear in mind the advices and try to improve next time.
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    Nice take. Except for what you say about the sky.

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    It looks nice to me, perhaps a little too tight, a wider shot / panorama will look better to show the beauty of the reservoir.

    I think the problem is with the flat contrast and colour, don't try to 'penetrate the water to see the stones beneath', one of the best parts in this picture is the reflection on the water surface. That bright spot is not a problem to me, doesn't look too blown up.

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    Default Re: Evening at Lower pierce reservoir

    Quote Originally Posted by dw8888 View Post
    Nice take. Except for what you say about the sky.
    Thanks, dw888, will try to use GND filter next time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elgaris View Post
    It looks nice to me, perhaps a little too tight, a wider shot / panorama will look better to show the beauty of the reservoir.

    I think the problem is with the flat contrast and colour, don't try to 'penetrate the water to see the stones beneath', one of the best parts in this picture is the reflection on the water surface. That bright spot is not a problem to me, doesn't look too blown up.
    Thanks Elgaris, I am using Sigma 10-20mm for this shot. However when I try to adjust the lens distortion (I tilted the camera down), the sides of the pic was trimmed.

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