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    Aren't MRT stations public areas? I have taken photos in many stations before and no one came to tell me anything. But I was a pns..

    For airport it is a different case. I was at the arrival hall waiting for my dad to come out and I saw this cute baby girl leaning on the glass, so I took out the same pns and started to snap.
    3minutes later, the officer behind the glass door, came out and asked me to stop. But what so secretive about that area? Even if I don't fish out a camera, I can use my eyes to look and see everything.
    That was at terminal 3. Has anyone seen the "No photography" sign there?
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    The security stopped me from taking photographs of the airplane at the boarding gate in Budget Terminal. Then, asked me to delete. But, he didn't check if I had deleted.

    What if you use film?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcticFox View Post
    The security stopped me from taking photographs of the airplane at the boarding gate in Budget Terminal. Then, asked me to delete. But, he didn't check if I had deleted.

    What if you use film?
    Then maybe he will ask you to rewind and remove the film.
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    Just have to wear a custom-made shirt, saying "I'm a Tourist, please let me take some photos."
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    hmmm went to airport to shoot before.. no one stopped me... hmmm

    although i was trying to take some sunset scene at one mrt hmmm i tink Kranji and the staff wanted to stop me..

    my fren jus told her i wanted to snap the sunset... she allowed me to carry on...

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    Took some shots from the mrt track not long ago using film. Take cam from bag...shoot...wind...shoot...put back into bag. Done.

    Helps when the camera used is an old manual nikon fe2 with the "pancake" 50 f1.8 E series. Looked like a clumsy old camera...
    Dun blame the camera...blame the one behind the viewfinder :bsmilie:
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    Just fake fake use phone camera luh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymak90 View Post
    Aren't MRT stations public areas? I have taken photos in many stations before and no one came to tell me anything. But I was a pns..

    For airport it is a different case. I was at the arrival hall waiting for my dad to come out and I saw this cute baby girl leaning on the glass, so I took out the same pns and started to snap.
    3minutes later, the officer behind the glass door, came out and asked me to stop. But what so secretive about that area? Even if I don't fish out a camera, I can use my eyes to look and see everything.
    That was at terminal 3. Has anyone seen the "No photography" sign there?
    MRT stations aren't public.. Someone owns them. Hahahaha. Not sure who. But some government agency sure owns it.

    As for airport, it is known that you cant take photos of sensitive areas. There IS a difference between what you can see and what you can take photos of. For eg, if you use your eyes to look, and then sketch a rough sketch, its harder to plan terrorist attacks, compared to you email a photo of the terminal to Osama and friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinTing View Post
    MRT stations aren't public.. Someone owns them. Hahahaha. Not sure who. But some government agency sure owns it.

    As for airport, it is known that you cant take photos of sensitive areas. There IS a difference between what you can see and what you can take photos of. For eg, if you use your eyes to look, and then sketch a rough sketch, its harder to plan terrorist attacks, compared to you email a photo of the terminal to Osama and friends.
    actually hor, any places where there are people coming and going without much restriction is considered public area, even if the property is owned by someone else. mrt stations are public areas (thats y they called it public transportation system). control rooms of mrt station are not public since they are not easily accessed by the public. a shopping complex is public. a shopping complex office is not. the area before passing passport control or even arrival or departure area is public. the area after is restricted, hence not public.

    taking photos of sensitive areas i do no know what's the regulation. like, can i take a place, say a military base 5 miles away using a camera attached to a telescope? or can i take a photo 5 meters away? what's the difference between these two? both happens on public area, and hence are out of the jurisdiction of the photographed area. so...how ar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiruikage View Post
    taking photos of sensitive areas i do no know what's the regulation. like, can i take a place, say a military base 5 miles away using a camera attached to a telescope? or can i take a photo 5 meters away? what's the difference between these two? both happens on public area, and hence are out of the jurisdiction of the photographed area. so...how ar?
    if u r doing so, u r playing with the loopholes in the law. however, should u be discovered, the government will definately be able to charge u with 1 way or the other.

    easiest method is to get ISD to arrest u with the reason of terrorism or espionage.

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    There's actually a difference between a public place, and a private place with public access.

    Quote Originally Posted by shiruikage View Post
    actually hor, any places where there are people coming and going without much restriction is considered public area, even if the property is owned by someone else. mrt stations are public areas (thats y they called it public transportation system). control rooms of mrt station are not public since they are not easily accessed by the public. a shopping complex is public. a shopping complex office is not. the area before passing passport control or even arrival or departure area is public. the area after is restricted, hence not public.

    taking photos of sensitive areas i do no know what's the regulation. like, can i take a place, say a military base 5 miles away using a camera attached to a telescope? or can i take a photo 5 meters away? what's the difference between these two? both happens on public area, and hence are out of the jurisdiction of the photographed area. so...how ar?

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    i remembered monkey years ago, even before the terrorist incident, SMRT put up a rules and regulations on dos and donts on the mrt stations.

    photography/video is one of them. i remembered cause when i was in primary school i misbehaved and the station master made me read the rules and regulations 10 times lolz

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    There's actually a difference between a public place, and a private place with public access.
    So what's the difference then?

    Quote Originally Posted by GavinTing View Post
    MRT stations aren't public.. Someone owns them. Hahahaha. Not sure who. But some government agency sure owns it.
    Well true, SMRT owns it. And Temasek Holdings is the major shareholder of SMRT. I'm sure everyone knows Temasek Holdings right? Hahaha

    So a park is not a public place, but it is owned and maintain by NParks? And that NParks is a government agency.

    Quote Originally Posted by GavinTing View Post
    As for airport, it is known that you cant take photos of sensitive areas. There IS a difference between what you can see and what you can take photos of. For eg, if you use your eyes to look, and then sketch a rough sketch, its harder to plan terrorist attacks, compared to you email a photo of the terminal to Osama and friends.
    So is the arrival hall a sensitive area?
    You're assuming that using your eyes to see, you tend to forget it easily. So what happens if a person with photographic memory enters the airport? Will he escorted or banned from entering? Photographic memory may sound like an exaggeration, but there are people who can remember scenes and objects very well. One can even be trained to do so.
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    For example, a road is a public place, no one owns it and no one can stop anyone from using it (unless some other specific law or power is invoked).

    A shopping mall is a private place with public access. The mall owner typically allows people in (public access), but can stop it if he wants to, or deny people he doesn't like from entering (private place).

    Quote Originally Posted by gymak90 View Post
    So what's the difference then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    For example, a road is a public place, no one owns it and no one can stop anyone from using it (unless some other specific law or power is invoked).

    A shopping mall is a private place with public access. The mall owner typically allows people in (public access), but can stop it if he wants to, or deny people he doesn't like from entering (private place).
    that would border with discrimination, and legal actions can be sought. btw, the road is owned by the gahmen of singapore by the virtue of them owning the deed to the piece of land the road sits on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeTHaCk View Post
    i remembered monkey years ago, even before the terrorist incident, SMRT put up a rules and regulations on dos and donts on the mrt stations.

    photography/video is one of them. i remembered cause when i was in primary school i misbehaved and the station master made me read the rules and regulations 10 times lolz
    yeah, i remember this as well,
    sure hope they bring it back.

    nowadays, its impossible to find a cabin where there isn't a bubblgummer.
    sorry for the OT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiruikage View Post
    actually hor, any places where there are people coming and going without much restriction is considered public area, even if the property is owned by someone else. mrt stations are public areas (thats y they called it public transportation system). control rooms of mrt station are not public since they are not easily accessed by the public. a shopping complex is public. a shopping complex office is not. the area before passing passport control or even arrival or departure area is public. the area after is restricted, hence not public...
    Nope. Take Wheelock Place as a classic example. Shopping mall right?

    Public place? Wrong.

    The building is owned by the management of Wheelock Place, and it is merely a private place open to public access. They can (and have) restricted photography within their premises. Because it is a private place open to public access, their place, their rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by takeshi.lum View Post
    if u r doing so, u r playing with the loopholes in the law. however, should u be discovered, the government will definately be able to charge u with 1 way or the other.

    easiest method is to get ISD to arrest u with the reason of terrorism or espionage.
    You mean without reason
    The Government of Singapore has the right to detain people without charges.
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    Since the shopping mall is a private place, does it mean that if we take a photo in the shopping mall, the shopping mall management has to right to ask us to delete the photos taken in the shopping mall if they don't allow photography in the shopping mall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weili80 View Post
    Since the shopping mall is a private place, does it mean that if we take a photo in the shopping mall, the shopping mall management has to right to ask us to delete the photos taken in the shopping mall if they don't allow photography in the shopping mall?
    Yes, the Management got every rights to ask u to delete the photo taken. The Management also got the rights to chase people out if caught doing nuisane or infriged their rules and regulations of their premises.

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