D90 vs 50d

[desertstrike]

hi guys,

i went to a shop to have a look at the D90,
but was told that the D90 is a joke, particularly the video mode...
also say that should not waste my money on D90...
should get the 50D instead...

i dun know if it is real or the person just wanna promote canon 50D
guys, whats ur view on this?

[cityzensg]

http://nikonrumors.com/2008/10/07/to...september.aspx

better commission from Canon, perhaps? or maybe the saleman has been reading too much of NikonRumors websites lately...

[mcn]

Originally Posted by desertstrike hi guys, i went to a shop to have a look at the D90, but was told that the D90 is a joke, particularly the video mode... also say that should not waste my money on D90... should get the 50D instead... i dun know if it is real or the person just wanna promote canon 50D guys, whats ur view on this?

i think it's your choice
maybe buy both and keep the one you feel better with after a few weeks of trial ?

[akagi07]

Originally Posted by desertstrike hi guys, i went to a shop to have a look at the D90, but was told that the D90 is a joke, particularly the video mode... also say that should not waste my money on D90... should get the 50D instead... i dun know if it is real or the person just wanna promote canon 50D guys, whats ur view on this?

same response from e sales when i visited lucky plaza last wkend.
was told that the video was like equal to nothing fancy as the most optimal video quality can only be best obtained when filming on a tripod if zooming is involved as the video img will "jagger up and down"

and now read about D90 full review from dpreview.com, kinda shaken as the images are reviewed to be soft..

50D was too ex.. now 40D no more stock across several shops.

[psyk1]

most salesmen can't be trusted.. they will sell what makes them the most commission.. do your research before you go to the shops.. go to the shops only to try and have a feel of the cameras, but take everything you are told with a pinch of salt..

at the same time, it won't hurt to go to the more trusted and recommended shops..

good luck!

[mcn]

Originally Posted by akagi07 50D was too ex.. now 40D no more stock across several shops.

if u no mind 2nd hand, i see a few humans selling (40D) in the canon classified ofurm

[desertstrike]

the one i went to is at airport...

was recommended to scarifies the extra zoom from the D90 kit to get the 50D 18-55mm kit...
and scarifies the video mode...
and scarifies a bit more money...
he quote me ard 2.1k to get canon 50D + 18-55mm len...

keep saying the D90 is a joke and cannot make it...
until i hear until a bit not v sure whether i still wanna get D90 or not...

[desertstrike]

Originally Posted by psyk1 most salesmen can't be trusted.. they will sell what makes them the most commission.. do your research before you go to the shops.. go to the shops only to try and have a feel of the cameras, but take everything you are told with a pinch of salt.. at the same time, it won't hurt to go to the more trusted and recommended shops.. good luck!

hmm... the shop i went to is the shop in airport... after the check in portion...
dun know can trust the salesman or not...

[desertstrike]

Originally Posted by mcn i think it's your choice maybe buy both and keep the one you feel better with after a few weeks of trial ?

keep one and wat happen to the other one?
sell?

[milamber]

Originally Posted by akagi07 and now read about D90 full review from dpreview.com, kinda shaken as the images are reviewed to be soft..

This is a result of in-camera processing of the Jpeg files. Read the RAW comparison:

"Having seen how much sharper the RAW results are than the default JPEG output, it comes as no surprise to find that much of the difference between the 450D and the D90 evaporates when processed in the same manner."

You want sharper Jpegs, i'm sure there's a setting to increase sharpening in-camera.

[akagi07]

Originally Posted by milamber This is a result of in-camera processing of the Jpeg files. Read the RAW comparison: "Having seen how much sharper the RAW results are than the default JPEG output, it comes as no surprise to find that much of the difference between the 450D and the D90 evaporates when processed in the same manner." You want sharper Jpegs, i'm sure there's a setting to increase sharpening in-camera.

Trying to understand this portion..
which means taking RAW, will result a much sharper img? Comparing to in-camera imagine processing the Jpeg is made soft?

I'll go read dpreview again.

[firestone]

Of course to each his own but to be fair..

go vimeo.com(whr u can upload/watch HD videos),search 'D90'.

If you have no intention of ever shooting videos then forget it..but
for some of us,esp.if u know editing, the ability to play with lens, dof,etc is really pretty cool..

but of course 'if want shoot video get a videocam' still rings true, but what is achievable on the D90 is nothing to be sneezed at as well.

50D is built very solidly(= weight) And though I love its contruction, personally I feel its too heavy for my preference. Just go into shop & handle both.

Of course price rather different, unfair comparision.

[desertstrike]

Originally Posted by firestone Of course to each his own but to be fair.. go vimeo.com(whr u can upload/watch HD videos),search 'D90'. If you have no intention of ever shooting videos then forget it..but for some of us,esp.if u know editing, the ability to play with lens, dof,etc is really pretty cool.. but of course 'if want shoot video get a videocam' still rings true, but want is achievable on the D90 is nothing to be sneezed at as well. 50D is built very solidly(= weight) And though I love its contruction, personally I feel its too heavy for my preference. Just go into shop & handle both. Of course price rather different, unfair comparision.

i see... ask a newbie question... is the 50D much much better than the D90? better as in generally...

[akagi07]

Originally Posted by desertstrike i see... ask a newbie question... is the 50D much much better than the D90? better as in generally...

generally CSers will say both cams are good, its the person behind the cams that make the difference.

[blue_quartz]

Originally Posted by desertstrike i see... ask a newbie question... is the 50D much much better than the D90? better as in generally...

I have yet to read 50D reviews, though I understand some are out already. Sample images are nonetheless good. However, the couple of reviews on the D90 have shown that it's quite hard to beat at high ISOs. The only three advantages the 50D has over the D90 is 14-bit A/D output compared to 12 bits for the D90, 15 MP vs 12 MP resolution, and the faster continuous shooting mode. The higher A/D output should lead to better dynamic range, the extra resolution may come in handy at times, and the extra 1.5 fps in continuous speed for the 50D means you can capture three extra frames every two seconds thereabouts when it is required. Since you said this is a newbie question, I don't suppose you'll quite care about this 14-bit/12-bit issue, and the higher resolution/fps should sound more... exciting?

Yes, there is an option to control the sharpening in the D90. It's standard profile by default is a little soft, so in my case I'll increase the sharpening level with negligible presence of artifacts.

Also remember, the 50D is more expensive than the D90. In fact, it sits at a very interesting price point in between the D300 and D90, although it's closer towards the D300. D300 goes for S$2k body-only, whereas it's about S$1.8k body-only for the 50D. Body-only price for the D90 is quoted to be around S$1.4k, so does that mean we should compare the 50D with the D300 on price instead?

[desertstrike]

Originally Posted by blue_quartz I have yet to read 50D reviews, though I understand some are out already. Sample images are nonetheless good. However, the couple of reviews on the D90 have shown that it's quite hard to beat at high ISOs. The only three advantages the 50D has over the D90 is 14-bit A/D output compared to 12 bits for the D90, 15 MP vs 12 MP resolution, and the faster continuous shooting mode. The higher A/D output should lead to better dynamic range, the extra resolution may come in handy at times, and the extra 1.5 fps in continuous speed for the 50D means you can capture three extra frames every two seconds thereabouts when it is required. Since you said this is a newbie question, I don't suppose you'll quite care about this 14-bit/12-bit issue, and the higher resolution/fps should sound more... exciting? Yes, there is an option to control the sharpening in the D90. It's standard profile by default is a little soft, so in my case I'll increase the sharpening level with negligible presence of artifacts. Also remember, the 50D is more expensive than the D90. In fact, it sits at a very interesting price point in between the D300 and D90, although it's closer towards the D300. D300 goes for S$2k body-only, whereas it's about S$1.8k body-only for the 50D. Body-only price for the D90 is quoted to be around S$1.4k, so does that mean we should compare the 50D with the D300 on price instead?

i see... one question... since our LCD screen is only 22" largest... how would the 12mp vs 15mp be a factor for us? cos we wun be able to see the differences?

[desertstrike]

Originally Posted by akagi07 generally CSers will say both cams are good, its the person behind the cams that make the difference.

yes, that is true, haha
but as a consumer buying a DSLR...
so naturally would be concern with what our money is getting us

[entropy_h]

Originally Posted by desertstrike hi guys, i went to a shop to have a look at the D90, but was told that the D90 is a joke, particularly the video mode... also say that should not waste my money on D90... should get the 50D instead... i dun know if it is real or the person just wanna promote canon 50D guys, whats ur view on this?

Yeah, it's confirm a joke. All Nikon cameras are a joke.

[firestone]

I was considering similar... Ask if it really matters to you.

Does 14v12 bit matters( most commercial printed materials are actually done in only 8 bit)
Does the extra 1.5fps matters (how often u shooting sports)
Does 15mp vs 12mp matters.(how often u print? next to...never?)

Or would u rather spend the extra$$ to buy a 'better' lens...

[desertstrike]

make sense!