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    Quote Originally Posted by sORe-EyEz View Post
    i am sticking to Ya Kun!
    I prefer the corner kopi stall on level 2 of Hong Lim Food Centre, which is just next to the famous Ah Heng curry chicken noodles. Their kopi O costs only 60 cents and definitely tastes better than Ya Kun's. Kopi O and kaya toast costs only $1.40.

    Nowadays, many Ya Kun outlets hire 'foreign talents' as baristas. These FTs know nothing about making a good cup of Hainanese kopi (disclaimer to moderators: I am not being bias or discriminating here). Being a Hainanese, I grew up drinking my grandmother's traditional kopi and I know how a good cuppa should taste like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by photobum View Post
    I prefer the corner kopi stall on level 2 of Hong Lim Food Centre, which is just next to the famous Ah Heng curry chicken noodles. Their kopi O costs only 60 cents and definitely tastes better than Ya Kun. Kopi O and kaya toast costs only $1.40.
    ooh?

    thanks, i must go & try.

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    Default Re: Starbucks bosses claim the constant flow of water stops germs breeding in the tap

    What makes you think only Starbucks does this...

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    What makes you think only Starbucks does this...
    They are just the unlucky whipping boys...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zac08 View Post
    They are just the unlucky whipping boys...
    maybe its a rival company that spilled the (coffee) beans?

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    that's the problem with being overly successful. A company wide policy can add up to a lot....

    But one must look carefully at their method of operation. As zac08 have pointed out, the utensil utilization is almost constant through the operating hours, thus dipping well is most appropriate for such, this can also keep the utensil quantity to the minimum. The alternative being considered is washer actually uses more water per wash cycle (add soap and rinse cycle).

    I initially misunderstood the article since it stated "tap running".... but realized it's only the dipping well.... in that case, have you seen the flow rate of a dipping well as compared to the washer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYRN View Post
    that's the problem with being overly successful. A company wide policy can add up to a lot....

    But one must look carefully at their method of operation. As zac08 have pointed out, the utensil utilization is almost constant through the operating hours, thus dipping well is most appropriate for such, this can also keep the utensil quantity to the minimum. The alternative being considered is washer actually uses more water per wash cycle (add soap and rinse cycle).

    I initially misunderstood the article since it stated "tap running".... but realized it's only the dipping well.... in that case, have you seen the flow rate of a dipping well as compared to the washer?
    That's my main question... which would waste more water? Constantly washing or the dipping well
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    Default Re: Starbucks bosses claim the constant flow of water stops germs breeding in the tap

    image of the dipping well
    http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIM...-atwater08.jpg

    It's hard to measure, but the worker can't be constantly working right? There surely are time when there are less customer, so the water flow will be wasted. Dipping well may not work as clean as a quick wash due to residue left over in dipping well.
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    Default Re: Starbucks bosses claim the constant flow of water stops germs breeding in the tap

    Quote Originally Posted by photobum View Post
    I prefer the corner kopi stall on level 2 of Hong Lim Food Centre, which is just next to the famous Ah Heng curry chicken noodles. Their kopi O costs only 60 cents and definitely tastes better than Ya Kun's. Kopi O and kaya toast costs only $1.40.

    Nowadays, many Ya Kun outlets hire 'foreign talents' as baristas. These FTs know nothing about making a good cup of Hainanese kopi (disclaimer to moderators: I am not being bias or discriminating here). Being a Hainanese, I grew up drinking my grandmother's traditional kopi and I know how a good cuppa should taste like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcf View Post
    image of the dipping well
    http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIM...-atwater08.jpg

    It's hard to measure, but the worker can't be constantly working right? There surely are time when there are less customer, so the water flow will be wasted. Dipping well may not work as clean as a quick wash due to residue left over in dipping well.
    compared to a commercial dishwasher...

    http://www.germes-online.com/catalog...ishwasher.html


    unless you get this version... confirm save water.
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    Default Re: Starbucks bosses claim the constant flow of water stops germs breeding in the tap

    now you know why u get pay so much for your latte
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    Default Re: Starbucks bosses claim the constant flow of water stops germs breeding in the tap

    In wafer Fab, the DI (De-ionised) water have to be circulated to prevent bacteria and algae build up. I was told that the longest it can last was about 8 hours without circulation before baterias start to build up to fail the spec. But in the loop, they have UV lamp to kill the bacteria. If star buck is so concern about bacteria, a simple installation of UV lamp and filters system will solve the issue.

    BTW, I'm sure everyone of us had at one time drank water from water disperser. The next time you drink from it, check the condition of the filters (if it have one). heehee


    Disclaimer: I'm not a biochemist nor a water expert.

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    Meng Kee Coffee Stall at Hong Lim Food Centre (taken with my Nokia E71).
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    Default Re: Starbucks bosses claim the constant flow of water stops germs breeding in the tap

    There's such an invention called the handle in the tap to off/on it.

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    Starbucks has decided not to use wells anymore.. Instead they are going to use single-use spoons. Awesome. The earth's resources are finally going to be saved!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinTing View Post
    Starbucks has decided not to use wells anymore.. Instead they are going to use single-use spoons. Awesome. The earth's resources are finally going to be saved!
    At the expense of another resource....
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    Quote Originally Posted by photobum View Post
    Meng Kee Coffee Stall at Hong Lim Food Centre.
    went to try the kopi-O. seems very popular there, even i not regular kopi-O drinkers i go try. not bad. not too bitter.

    actually i was looking forward to a good cup of teh-C... but the kopi-O made my day!

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    Starbucks in Melbourne is under intense scrutiny as a result of this damning article.

    we're in the midst of a severe water restriction (Stage 3A. admittedly not as bad as some part of Queensland's Stage 5 or Stage 6!) but still... loads of people are mightily pissed off because Melburnians have come together to try to scimp water in any way, shape, manner or form... and then you have this conglomerate of a coffee outlet that decides to take a leak (no pun intended) on everybody's hard work and effort.

    and Starbucks isn't even that popular here compared to the dozens of individual coffee places we get here, and they don't have a damn dipping well... even though business for them can be flat out mad during specific hours of the day (think morning rush in the dead of winter.)
    chicken fight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sORe-EyEz View Post
    went to try the kopi-O. seems very popular there, even i not regular kopi-O drinkers i go try. not bad. not too bitter.

    actually i was looking forward to a good cup of teh-C... but the kopi-O made my day!
    Meng Kee is both cheap and good.... Who needs Starbucks anyway?

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    Default Re: Starbucks bosses claim the constant flow of water stops germs breeding in the tap

    hmmmm...

    I have an idea, can all the shopping center toilet tape the "waste" water from starbuck to flush toilet, so shopping centers can save some money on utility bills......
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