8 mega pixel prosumer camera ?

myloplex · 15th August 2003

woah !!
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0308/03...onydscf828.asp

Better than a DSLP ??

ke ke

sequitur · 15th August 2003

good resolution just lacks features that a dSLR will have..

as with prosumer cams, lack the noise reductions.

Pinoy · 16th August 2003

8MP. RAW format. 7x Optical Zoom. f2-2.8. MS/MS Pro + CF. Sony batt.

Surely looks promising.

I've always loved the image quality of F7x7. Wanted to have the 707 2 years ago but too expensive, so ended up owning G2.

modenaslim · 16th August 2003

wow... great camera...
I never like Sony digital camera before.. but this time...

it looks even great then Dimage 7Hi... cool..
sure cost around S$1800???...

sadness · 16th August 2003

nice try Sony.

espn · 16th August 2003

Originally Posted by sequitur

good resolution just lacks features that a dSLR will have..

as with prosumer cams, lack the noise reductions.

CP5700 has noise reduction

Yongliang · 16th August 2003

Kudos to Sony for innovation!
I'm looking forward to reviews of this 8mp camera.
=)

kelster · 16th August 2003

whoa...finally another 28mm digi prosumer other than the Dimage series...well done!!...now just hvta see how it fairs during actual test...but definitely a cam to look out for...

megaweb · 16th August 2003

sensor size 8.8 x 6.6 mm for 8 megapixel ?

I think ISO 200 can see noise liao

anyway it is an upgrade dc of Sony 717 , good for people who want to upgrade

denizenx · 16th August 2003

Originally Posted by sequitur

good resolution just lacks features that a dSLR will have..

as with prosumer cams, lack the noise reductions.

I think this is getting to be rhetoric... I've used the 717 and it is one of the best I've seen, SLR or not. to compare I have also used the d100 with a prime lens shooting under the same crappy office lighting. seriously not a consideration unless u print in 72-144 dpi.
colour is more important. sony's red is not so bad in the 717, but still sad in the fishcake P series...
even my 3mp minolta at 400 looked bad on screen but looks like 200 on lab print. 4R of course.
think the current batch of prosumers losing to dslr is only AF/motordrive speed, misc funcs like lens change, mirror lockup, higher (1600++) ISO.
else a digicam is more convenient, takes more pictures.

I wonder about canon's new low-end dslr, if it matches the price pt of the f828 and offers similar features (remember it's low-end) then I'd definitely buy the f2-2.8 CZ lens, which I have experienced and converted. (Leica Pana lenses still have not given me a convincing shot)

Retro · 16th August 2003

What a pity that it still uses Li-Ion Batts and not AA batts which are more economical. (at least to me)

denizenx · 16th August 2003

Originally Posted by Retro

What a pity that it still uses Li-Ion Batts and not AA batts which are more economical. (at least to me)

quite true, although I must say the fm50 and the bp511 are 2 of the most ridiculously long life batteries I have tried...
AAs' main advantage is the last resort use of alkalines as well as upgradeable capacities...

frisky · 16th August 2003

Originally Posted by Retro

What a pity that it still uses Li-Ion Batts and not AA batts which are more economical. (at least to me)

Well, that's a pity, but considering that this camera is expecting to
be quite long battery life, shouldn't pose too much problem.

It's size and weight (and price) is probably going to be a bigger issue,
significant enough that it might not be a camera of choice for extended back country use.........

Pinoy · 16th August 2003

Originally Posted by Retro

What a pity that it still uses Li-Ion Batts and not AA batts which are more economical. (at least to me)

For those who use Sony video cams though, it is very attractive.

:Later,

sequitur · 16th August 2003

Originally Posted by espn

CP5700 has noise reduction

doh so does the 717

i'm really talking about reasonable noise at iso200 above.

Noir · 17th August 2003

CF compatibility! It's about time.

Watcher · 17th August 2003

When I first saw the specs, it was a "Whoa"

moment. But then it got me thinking: this cam is purely for consumers who are attracted or (their perceived) need the megapixs.

Why? Well, with the trend that is going, Canon and Nikon are coming out with cheaper DSLRs which would be better (do your own comparison of why) that this Sony cam. It all depends on the price that Sony puts up. Furthermore, a fixed 28-200 lens? The price for a third party lens would not be too much higher + a DSLR.

The only other advantage is that the Sony cam has movie modes that is not possible with a DSLR so it is targetted at the consumers who have $$$ to spend on.

denizenx · 17th August 2003

Originally Posted by sequitur

doh so does the 717

i'm really talking about reasonable noise at iso200 above.

quite ok what with 8mp. the d100 at 1600 was also damn noisy... but 6mp -> 3mp voila instant iso200!
so 8mp->4mp voilaaaaa

Zerstorer · 17th August 2003

Originally Posted by denizenx

quite ok what with 8mp. the d100 at 1600 was also damn noisy... but 6mp -> 3mp voila instant iso200!
so 8mp->4mp voilaaaaa

Agree with this, not to mention the fact that Neat Image works best when you have a high resolution image to start with.

The 828 has just about everything most people need in a DSLR except for DOF control.

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Pinoy Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ClubSNAP East Posts: 1,342	8MP. RAW format. 7x Optical Zoom. f2-2.8. MS/MS Pro + CF. Sony batt. Surely looks promising. I've always loved the image quality of F7x7. Wanted to have the 707 2 years ago but too expensive, so ended up owning G2. __________________ Canon 40D¤BG-E2N¤10-22¤24-105 f4L IS¤100 f2.8 Macro¤70-200 f4L¤30mm f1.4¤2x580EXII

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sadness Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New York, New York! Posts: 468	yeah nice try Sony.

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modenaslim Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Yishun Broadway KopiDiam Posts: 704	wow... great camera... I never like Sony digital camera before.. but this time... it looks even great then Dimage 7Hi... cool.. sure cost around S$1800???...

16th August 2003	#7
Yongliang Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Singapore, East Posts: 163	Kudos to Sony for innovation! I'm looking forward to reviews of this 8mp camera. =)

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kelster Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Everywhere where e sun shines Posts: 1,078	whoa...finally another 28mm digi prosumer other than the Dimage series...well done!!...now just hvta see how it fairs during actual test...but definitely a cam to look out for...

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Retro Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: East Wing, Dungeon #8 Posts: 343	What a pity that it still uses Li-Ion Batts and not AA batts which are more economical. (at least to me)

17th August 2003	#16
Noir Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 321	CF compatibility! It's about time.

17th August 2003	#17
Watcher Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The heart of the Abyss Posts: 2,319	When I first saw the specs, it was a "Whoa" moment. But then it got me thinking: this cam is purely for consumers who are attracted or (their perceived) need the megapixs. Why? Well, with the trend that is going, Canon and Nikon are coming out with cheaper DSLRs which would be better (do your own comparison of why) that this Sony cam. It all depends on the price that Sony puts up. Furthermore, a fixed 28-200 lens? The price for a third party lens would not be too much higher + a DSLR. The only other advantage is that the Sony cam has movie modes that is not possible with a DSLR so it is targetted at the consumers who have $$$ to spend on.