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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    that's true..

    i think most gwc aspire to be you..

    but the trouble is, they too busy salivating.. so cannot match the skill
    Too much dripping saliva ... spoils the kamela ... unless one has a D3 or a 1D series. It also fudges up the lenses, and makes for dangerous, slippery surfaces to negotiate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Merchant View Post
    Too much dripping saliva ... spoils the kamela ... unless one has a D3 or a 1D series. It also fudges up the lenses, and makes for dangerous, slippery surfaces to negotiate.
    +1

    pentax k20d is weather sealed too

    olympus e3 too

    ...so much favourism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    +1

    pentax k20d is weather sealed too

    olympus e3 too

    ...so much favourism!
    True! True! About the availability of other brands and models, but I guess it was the main-stream I was referring to. No offense ya?

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    i have noticed an improvement in the titles, kudos to the organisers for the bold move

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    Yes, I've notice as well

    Good to know that things are improving and hopefully, it'll keep improving
    I get paid more shooting part time ...... damn, I should find more time to shoot part time

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    Quote Originally Posted by yqt View Post
    Yes, I've notice as well

    Good to know that things are improving and hopefully, it'll keep improving
    I'd say the true test is: How long will this last.
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    I've not read this thread till now.
    POV from an organiser!




    1. Reason behind those catchy titles:
    The first reason why i did this was because i realised that this was the only way to attract people into the thread. If i dont do it, other people are doing it and my thread lose out. If you look at the number of views in descending order in the workshop archive, you will discover that those threads with higher number of views are usually those with these catchy titles. When you know how to lead people into the thread, would you still use simple titles like "Model shoot, 14 Feb", which you know very little people will enter? Modelinn has found a name for himself, with his lighting equipments and overseas model, that's why people will just click into his threads when he updates. However, for people like me and the other new organisers, no one would bother about our threads if we do it the boring way.

    2. Why so desperate to get your thread noticed?
    Because it's my main source of income to get me through each week. I've stopped taking pocket money from mum eversince i started organising photoshoots, and whatever i earned, even if it's very little, is also essential to me, or else i'll have nothing to eat for the next week. Some ask how can i use this as a ricebowl if im earning so little for those shoots that i quoted little price from the photographers. Again, it's because lowcost shoots gets more response. Im able to quote the price for photographers at a lower cost because i have outside negotiations and collaborations with some of the models.

    3. Lousy models?
    People have to understand that we are not mothers of the models we used. Although some of the models i've featured are under me, but there are also a number of them which i outsourced from other poeple. I see their photos and looks, but i wont know how well they pose in real life. It's the same as when you hire models from model agencies, you wont know whether the models pose as good as their portfolio or that's only some of her best pictures. If you go to a supermarket and chose ABC brand of biscuits, and it doesn't taste good, you cant blame the supermarket because their job is only to outsource and supply. They are not the biscuit manufacturer. I always make sure that my models have gone through enough experiences, and ability to pose before letting them take part in my group shoots. I've eliminated many girls and "models" who are too stiff to pass. Rest assure that if i know the model is stiff, and gets bad responses from the photographers who shot her before, that'll probably be the last i present them to the photographers.The last thing i would like to see is disappointment from the photographers who join my shoots. Why would i want to ruin my own reputation as a shoot organiser?

    4. GWCs joining shoots.
    I beg to differ. Yeap, there might be people who join the shoot for a negative motive, but i know some people who join my nurse/policewoman shoot only because of the theme. Some of them just want a different addition to their portfolio because they've shot too much of casual fashion/bikini/lingerie.

    5. Implementing legal age to view threads/forum.
    Who says under 18 can't be serious photographer? Gotta be fair






    I dont know if you know (but alot of people that i've met didn't know) that we organisers paid a certain amount to advertise in clubsnap. And when our shoots dont have response, no one gives us back our $.


    I know what im saying here is opposing to alot of people who have contributed to this thread. Im explaining from a organiser's POV, and hope you guys will put yourselves in our shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuestion View Post
    I'd say the true test is: How long will this last.
    After reading the post above mine from the organiser, i had to agreed with you that it would last long.
    Last edited by Leong23; 13th October 2008 at 02:23 PM.

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    Just a reminder for fellows photographer, underage of nude or semi nude photography is not allow in singapore, therefore posting of nude or semi nude is not allow, as i notice that some models are 18 and below, for that case a girl that consent for the shoot is NOT consider a consent, this will be categorize as child pornography, under the MDA act. This is just to let guys know that your interest in nude or semi nude photography, models must be 16 and above.

    No offence~


    Correct me if i'm wrong~
    Last edited by Drckz; 13th October 2008 at 12:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drckz View Post
    Just a reminder for fellows photographer, underage of nude or semi nude photography is not allow in singapore, therefore posting of nude or semi nude is not allow, as i notice that some models are 18 and below, for that case a girl that consent for the shoot is NOT consider a consent, this will be categorize as child pornography, under the MDA act. This is just to let guys know that your interest in nude or semi nude photography, models must be 16 and above.

    No offence~


    Correct me if i'm wrong~
    I highly doubt anyone is dumb enuff to openly do what you mentioned...but you can go police the photogs then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melody-Love View Post
    I've not read this thread till now.
    POV from an organiser!




    1. Reason behind those catchy titles:
    The first reason why i did this was because i realised that this was the only way to attract people into the thread. If i dont do it, other people are doing it and my thread lose out. If you look at the number of views in descending order in the workshop archive, you will discover that those threads with higher number of views are usually those with these catchy titles. When you know how to lead people into the thread, would you still use simple titles like "Model shoot, 14 Feb", which you know very little people will enter? Modelinn has found a name for himself, with his lighting equipments and overseas model, that's why people will just click into his threads when he updates. However, for people like me and the other new organisers, no one would bother about our threads if we do it the boring way.

    2. Why so desperate to get your thread noticed?
    Because it's my main source of income to get me through each week. I've stopped taking pocket money from mum eversince i started organising photoshoots, and whatever i earned, even if it's very little, is also essential to me, or else i'll have nothing to eat for the next week. Some ask how can i use this as a ricebowl if im earning so little for those shoots that i quoted little price from the photographers. Again, it's because lowcost shoots gets more response. Im able to quote the price for photographers at a lower cost because i have outside negotiations and collaborations with some of the models.

    3. Lousy models?
    People have to understand that we are not mothers of the models we used. Although some of the models i've featured are under me, but there are also a number of them which i outsourced from other poeple. I see their photos and looks, but i wont know how well they pose in real life. It's the same as when you hire models from model agencies, you wont know whether the models pose as good as their portfolio or that's only some of her best pictures. If you go to a supermarket and chose ABC brand of biscuits, and it doesn't taste good, you cant blame the supermarket because their job is only to outsource and supply. They are not the biscuit manufacturer. I always make sure that my models have gone through enough experiences, and ability to pose before letting them take part in my group shoots. I've eliminated many girls and "models" who are too stiff to pass. Rest assure that if i know the model is stiff, and gets bad responses from the photographers who shot her before, that'll probably be the last i present them to the photographers.The last thing i would like to see is disappointment from the photographers who join my shoots. Why would i want to ruin my own reputation as a shoot organiser?

    4. GWCs joining shoots.
    I beg to differ. Yeap, there might be people who join the shoot for a negative motive, but i know some people who join my nurse/policewoman shoot only because of the theme. Some of them just want a different addition to their portfolio because they've shot too much of casual fashion/bikini/lingerie.

    5. Implementing legal age to view threads/forum.
    Who says under 18 can't be serious photographer? Gotta be fair






    I dont know if you know (but alot of people that i've met didn't know) that we organisers paid a certain amount to advertise in clubsnap. And when our shoots dont have response, no one gives us back our $.


    I know what im saying here is opposing to alot of people who have contributed to this thread. Im explaining from a organiser's POV, and hope you guys will put yourselves in our shoes.
    I applaud your entrepreneurial and independent spirit and i dun begrudge u trying to make a living. and to be honest i haven't found any of the thread names to be too sleazy just yet. dun see what the hullabaloo is for... let me ask u...since this thread appeared have you seen a drop in sign ups?
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    Uhm, care to share the specific legislation (name and section number) which says:

    1. that nude and/or semi nude photography is not allowed in Singapore?

    2. that consent is a factor to whether it is allowed or not allowed; and

    3. that a model of below 18 years cannot give consent to satisfy (2).

    4. and how did the age then change to 16 years in your last sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drckz View Post
    Just a reminder for fellows photographer, underage of nude or semi nude photography is not allow in singapore, therefore posting of nude or semi nude is not allow, as i notice that some models are 18 and below, for that case a girl that consent for the shoot is NOT consider a consent, this will be categorize as child pornography, under the MDA act. This is just to let guys know that your interest in nude or semi nude photography, models must be 16 and above.

    No offence~


    Correct me if i'm wrong~

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuestion View Post
    I applaud your entrepreneurial and independent spirit and i dun begrudge u trying to make a living. and to be honest i haven't found any of the thread names to be too sleazy just yet. dun see what the hullabaloo is for... let me ask u...since this thread appeared have you seen a drop in sign ups?
    well, from my past experiences,

    TITLES only help lead people into your thread - inviting more potential slots takeup.
    Whether sign ups are quick or not, only depends on the theme or the models featured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melody-Love View Post
    I've not read this thread till now.
    POV from an organiser!




    1. Reason behind those catchy titles:
    The first reason why i did this was because i realised that this was the only way to attract people into the thread. If i dont do it, other people are doing it and my thread lose out. If you look at the number of views in descending order in the workshop archive, you will discover that those threads with higher number of views are usually those with these catchy titles. When you know how to lead people into the thread, would you still use simple titles like "Model shoot, 14 Feb", which you know very little people will enter? Modelinn has found a name for himself, with his lighting equipments and overseas model, that's why people will just click into his threads when he updates. However, for people like me and the other new organisers, no one would bother about our threads if we do it the boring way.

    2. Why so desperate to get your thread noticed?
    Because it's my main source of income to get me through each week. I've stopped taking pocket money from mum eversince i started organising photoshoots, and whatever i earned, even if it's very little, is also essential to me, or else i'll have nothing to eat for the next week. Some ask how can i use this as a ricebowl if im earning so little for those shoots that i quoted little price from the photographers. Again, it's because lowcost shoots gets more response. Im able to quote the price for photographers at a lower cost because i have outside negotiations and collaborations with some of the models.

    3. Lousy models?
    People have to understand that we are not mothers of the models we used. Although some of the models i've featured are under me, but there are also a number of them which i outsourced from other poeple. I see their photos and looks, but i wont know how well they pose in real life. It's the same as when you hire models from model agencies, you wont know whether the models pose as good as their portfolio or that's only some of her best pictures. If you go to a supermarket and chose ABC brand of biscuits, and it doesn't taste good, you cant blame the supermarket because their job is only to outsource and supply. They are not the biscuit manufacturer. I always make sure that my models have gone through enough experiences, and ability to pose before letting them take part in my group shoots. I've eliminated many girls and "models" who are too stiff to pass. Rest assure that if i know the model is stiff, and gets bad responses from the photographers who shot her before, that'll probably be the last i present them to the photographers.The last thing i would like to see is disappointment from the photographers who join my shoots. Why would i want to ruin my own reputation as a shoot organiser?

    4. GWCs joining shoots.
    I beg to differ. Yeap, there might be people who join the shoot for a negative motive, but i know some people who join my nurse/policewoman shoot only because of the theme. Some of them just want a different addition to their portfolio because they've shot too much of casual fashion/bikini/lingerie.

    5. Implementing legal age to view threads/forum.
    Who says under 18 can't be serious photographer? Gotta be fair






    I dont know if you know (but alot of people that i've met didn't know) that we organisers paid a certain amount to advertise in clubsnap. And when our shoots dont have response, no one gives us back our $.


    I know what im saying here is opposing to alot of people who have contributed to this thread. Im explaining from a organiser's POV, and hope you guys will put yourselves in our shoes.
    Hi Melody-Love

    Thanks for providing us with the POV of a shoot organiser. I'm sure many of us appericate it.

    The point many of us are bringing up is that these kind of titles are giving CS a bad name and if things are not moderated now, CS may one day be the place to go to if people wants to look at sleazy photos of XMM in compromising pose or even create the image themselves. Would you want to be assiocated with a website like that and be known as an organiser of sleazy shoots? As it is, ClubSnap is fast becoming ClubSex. Hope you can see things from our prospective as well.
    I get paid more shooting part time ...... damn, I should find more time to shoot part time

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuestion View Post
    I highly doubt anyone is dumb enuff to openly do what you mentioned...but you can go police the photogs then.
    Don't be too sure ...........
    I get paid more shooting part time ...... damn, I should find more time to shoot part time

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    Quote Originally Posted by yqt View Post
    Don't be too sure ...........
    true...if i had a dollar for everytime someone did something dumb...i'd be RICH!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuestion View Post
    true...if i had a dollar for everytime someone did something dumb...i'd be RICH!!!
    I'll give you $1,000 everytime I do something dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuestion View Post
    true...if i had a dollar for everytime someone did something dumb...i'd be RICH!!!
    Get in line, I pointed it out first
    I get paid more shooting part time ...... damn, I should find more time to shoot part time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    I'll give you $1,000 everytime I do something dumb.
    sure! giving me the $1000 would be the first right move in the right direction!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yqt View Post
    Get in line, I pointed it out first
    i found that genie first! hehe
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