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    Quote Originally Posted by yqt View Post
    something else we agreed on if only everything else was so simple
    Hahah, if only But common ground is almost always a good thing

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    The main issue here is that given that when they advertise it as a "bikini shoot with D _____ , you do get to shoot D size ______ in a bikini. But do we want to be known as the website to go to if we want to shoot soft porn?
    That's what I meant earlier when I mentioned decorum, and the way matters are handled.

    We can't deny that sex sells as much as it is attractive, unless CS wants to cut off ALL forms of anything at all related to sex, including anything sexy or remotely sensual ... because sensuality can be (often erroneously) linked back to sex ... it all depends on what form and degree will be allowed, if any action is taken to change the state of matters.

    I guess SPH has it sorted out to some extent in that they have a clear guideline as to what words and terms advertisers can and cannot use in advertisements in their media.

    Then again, what if one day we have photographers here who do explore more sexual themes like say eroticism and homo-eroticism? One can't deny that the works of Robert Mapplethorpe is undeniably powerful and very moving, even if one is appalled at the sheer sexuality or dark sexual messages contained in some of his works.

    Or if later on, what about artistic works that depict themes of gore and violence in an erotic manner?

    But that's taking things a bit or much further than what exists today in CS I'm afraid.

    As far as I can see, there are two seperate issues involved:

    1) Content and
    2) Mannerism

    Which are we talking about to censor or guide?
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    Will they be served on a naked XMM?
    For you, of course!!!






























    All 200 kg of her and with a FOC side dish of bad breath no less!!!
    I get paid more shooting part time ...... damn, I should find more time to shoot part time

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattlock View Post
    Yup.
    May I be so bold as to suggest that the reason why all these sexy shoots are so openly allowed to be promoted is because they bring in revenue for Clubsnap.
    May I suggest that while this is true for the short run, there's a potential for lost ad revenue from companies which may shun away from associating with Clubsnap due to the impression that we're another Sammyboy forum of sorts.

    If we want to promote the art of XMM, Sexy or Nude shoots, may I suggest that the workshop organisers take a real interest in promoting the photographic element of it, in terms of appreciation of the artform and increasing the technical/aesthetic levels of this area of photography.

    Hmmm interesting. I saw one thread that advertises about some shoot in a hotel room wherein the attendees need not do anything but go there and shoot.
    And the worse thing about it is that, some attendees claimed that the photos are theirs, when in fact they didnt do anything.

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    For you, of course!!!






























    All 200 kg of her and with a FOC side dish of bad breath no less!!!
    OOU YQT!

    I never knew you were so well-versed about plumpers and fetishes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Merchant View Post
    That's what I meant earlier when I mentioned decorum, and the way matters are handled.

    We can't deny that sex sells as much as it is attractive, unless CS wants to cut off ALL forms of anything at all related to sex, including anything sexy or remotely sensual ... because sensuality can be (often erroneously) linked back to sex ... it all depends on what form and degree will be allowed, if any action is taken to change the state of matters.

    I guess SPH has it sorted out to some extent in that they have a clear guideline as to what words and terms advertisers can and cannot use in advertisements in their media.

    Then again, what if one day we have photographers here who do explore more sexual themes like say eroticism and homo-eroticism? One can't deny that the works of Robert Mapplethorpe is undeniably powerful and very moving, even if one is appalled at the sheer sexuality or dark sexual messages contained in some of his works.

    Or if later on, what about artistic works that depict themes of gore and violence in an erotic manner?

    But that's taking things a bit or much further than what exists today in CS I'm afraid.

    As far as I can see, there are two seperate issues involved:

    1) Content and
    2) Mannerism

    Which are we talking about to censor or guide?

    One step at a time.
    I get paid more shooting part time ...... damn, I should find more time to shoot part time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Merchant View Post
    OOU YQT!

    I never knew you were so well-versed about plumpers and fetishes!
    All in due time, grasshopper, all in due time
    I get paid more shooting part time ...... damn, I should find more time to shoot part time

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    wa lao, u guys sibeh gao OT.. this thread lose its purpose already... unless ortega wanna do the OT split
    Logging Off. "You have 2,631 messages stored, of a total 400 allowed." don't PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yqt View Post
    All in due time, grasshopper, all in due time
    Omomomomomomom de great YQT! Master of fat fetishes and bad breath!

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    wa lao, u guys sibeh gao OT.. this thread lose its purpose already... unless ortega wanna do the OT split
    We were just having a bit of relax time lah ... even tok about seksi topics need a break leh.

    Plish dun whip us.

    okay, no more OT wiat mods get angrie and chut power liao.

    Peace!

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    Plish dun whip us.
    Eh .... Can be a damn sexy photo shoot you know .... "Photog whipped by sexy Mods" shoot session ..... somewhat akin to the "photog gets searched by sexy poliewoman"

    All that OT aside .... I think this has been a very interesting discussion and many good and valid points have been raise .... I am kind of disappointed that none of the shoot organisers have come in to chip in to this discussion and maybe present their POV.

    Let hope ... there is always still hope ....

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    Eh .... Can be a damn sexy photo shoot you know .... "Photog whipped by sexy Mods" shoot session ..... somewhat akin to the "photog gets searched by sexy poliewoman"

    All that OT aside .... I think this has been a very interesting discussion and many good and valid points have been raise .... I am kind of disappointed that none of the shoot organisers have come in to chip in to this discussion and maybe present their POV.

    Let hope ... there is always still hope ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Long Thai Bean View Post
    I am kind of disappointed that none of the shoot organisers have come in to chip in to this discussion and maybe present their POV.

    Let hope ... there is always still hope ....
    I am disappointed too. Their POV is crucial for this discussion to move forward. Hopefully they will share their perspectives with us.

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    This thread has gone on for 13 pages.

    I hate to say this, but if they wanted to say something, they probably already would have.

    It's a bit puzzling why they're not discussing the issues here because whatever decisions, if any that the owners and admin of CS makes, may have a direct impact on their business.
    Last edited by Dream Merchant; 4th October 2008 at 12:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long Thai Bean View Post

    All that OT aside .... I think this has been a very interesting discussion and many good and valid points have been raise .... I am kind of disappointed that none of the shoot organisers have come in to chip in to this discussion and maybe present their POV.

    brudder..dun like dat say la.... still around la .... observing the 'trend' .... but then, break it ?


    things have never been the same since ..... I must be the 'die hard' organiser who is still sticking his ass into organised shoots here...but when some of us 'old birds' saw the directions of these shoots....if we were not human, our heads would probably have fallen off by now.... * for shaking our heads and sighing too much *

    remember our first shoot ? =) ... u asked why I still went ahead with it ?

    There are SO MANY bikini and lingerie these days...lots of cosplay too... japanese school girls being the most popular ? there are many reasons why a person joins a shoot... he may be an aspiring photographer or just GWCs ....

    I have NOT conducted many shoots for obvious reasons.. there are SO MANY every weekends .... and if i do conduct a shoot, I transform the subjects for some of you to capture something different. Those who had attended my shoots can vouch for me. I bring enuff stuffs for one to try sth different. I encouraged them to try dynamic angles when they were holding back.. I asked them to pull back if they were too close.. if they had blurred images, I explained to them why bcos I watched their back while they shot ... I encouraged communication when i noticed they were not directing the subjects or even talking to the models ..... seriously, this is missing in some....if some models are not doing the right poses or giving the right facial expressions, I will demo ... an effective organised shoot should never be short of a SHARING element .... and if some had contracted the BBB virus, I will snap them out of it Having top notch or latest equipments do not make them a better photographer... its always the one behind the viewfinder =).. more often than not, newbies forget that they can tweak their settings to get a similar exposure ..its a matter of understanding what photography is all about... its always heart warming when i see the seniors leading the juniors ... and i do know those who had joined my shoots were out for some serious photography



    I guess the bottomline is responsibility ? .... its a personal thing ? ....... there is really nth much we can do .. alone

    That said, I am NOT giving up on this forum ... I ve just renewed my subscription tho I dun organise weekly shoots


    Bro MODELINN is leading the pack now

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    Quote Originally Posted by AhV View Post
    brudder..dun like dat say la.... still around la .... observing the 'trend' .... but then, break it ?


    things have never been the same since ..... I must be the 'die hard' organiser who is still sticking his ass into organised shoots here...but when some of us 'old birds' saw the directions of these shoots....if we were not human, our heads would probably have fallen off by now.... * for shaking our heads and sighing too much *

    remember our first shoot ? =) ... u asked why I still went ahead with it ?

    There are SO MANY bikini and lingerie these days...lots of cosplay too... japanese school girls being the most popular ? there are many reasons why a person joins a shoot... he may be an aspiring photographer or just GWCs ....

    I have NOT conducted many shoots for obvious reasons.. there are SO MANY every weekends .... and if i do conduct a shoot, I transform the subjects for some of you to capture something different. Those who had attended my shoots can vouch for me. I bring enuff stuffs for one to try sth different. I encouraged them to try dynamic angles when they were holding back.. I asked them to pull back if they were too close.. if they had blurred images, I explained to them why bcos I watched their back while they shot ... I encouraged communication when i noticed they were not directing the subjects or even talking to the models ..... seriously, this is missing in some....if some models are not doing the right poses or giving the right facial expressions, I will demo ... an effective organised shoot should never be short of a SHARING element .... and if some had contracted the BBB virus, I will snap them out of it Having top notch or latest equipments do not make them a better photographer... its always the one behind the viewfinder =).. more often than not, newbies forget that they can tweak their settings to get a similar exposure ..its a matter of understanding what photography is all about... its always heart warming when i see the seniors leading the juniors ... and i do know those who had joined my shoots were out for some serious photography



    I guess the bottomline is responsibility ? .... its a personal thing ? ....... there is really nth much we can do .. alone

    That said, I am NOT giving up on this forum ... I ve just renewed my subscription tho I dun organise weekly shoots


    Bro MODELINN is leading the pack now
    interesting...
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    interesting...

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    This is a photography forum. probably the most popular in the region.

    I do hope that the mods do pay some attention to the way photoshoots are marketed. Is it to promote good photography techniques or just blatant cheap thrills in disguise of photography.

    Think about it.....

    There are other forums that cater to those needs.

    Some posting titles in the PhotoShoots sub-forum

    1. Play With My Alluring NURSES!
    2. 'D'-lightful Winnie Dons her lingerie for us!! Sizzling!!
    3. SUGAR SWEET CANDY LAND ~ ONLY $30**
    4. Saturday Sexy Bikini Shoot <<< Fiona and Michelle >>>
    5. Yes***sexy beach delights with two sexiest ladies here***
    imagine... next time a thread title " One Night Stand " for a night shoot theme...
    Last edited by Exposure; 4th October 2008 at 02:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exposure View Post
    imagine... next time a thread title " One Night Stand " for a night shoot theme...
    I won't be surprised if it's been done before, perhaps just not here as an organised shoot that's all.

    In fact, if i can pull off a film noir look and feel, I would love to try something like that ... ONS ... Dangerous liaisons, 9-1/2 weeks ... as long as I can make the photos look really good!

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