My facts comes from living with them for years in Shanghai.
I am not generalising, more of a statistic point of view (personal). And maybe because I speak Chinese with a Beijing accent, that's why.
So chill my friend, you don't have to be so aggressive to defend the Shanghainese... I am more "northern" so I am naturally "biased" against the southerners (but their girls are pretty though)... ha ha ha... hey its Monday, don't let the blues get to us ok?
If you are Shanghainese, and your friends are offended by this, you can call me "stupid Beijing kuku" or whatever too... we should learn to laugh at ourselves... so chill lah...
My point is, once we understand the culture of the people and accept them, it becomes easier to live with them. Like living in heartlander Hong Kong in the New Territories, you get used to very loud talking people (I think I am a little influenced)... ha ha ha...
So Shanghainese tends to be generally cold when you do not know them (warm up slowly) but I have seen them (OP guys) give good service too, in the shop... they were talking like friends... but they have always been cold to me though... bleah... My Beijing accent... the war of the north and south... ha ha ha...
I am glad that you clarify yourself. I don't think you deliberately set out to offend the Shanghainese (btw, I am Singaporean). I just feel we need to be extra careful when it comes to associating traits (especially negative ones) to classes of people especially along the lines of nationality, race,religion or skin colour. I believe Clubsnap is aware of this and hence issued the guideline in the sticky,
"Although Kopitiam is meant as a catch-all area for things not related to photography, posts/threads which are:
in nature or can be construed as such will also be stamped out, abolished and demolished without prejudice"
Yes, I agree that our life experience tend to make us pigeonhole certain characteristics to be attributable to certain people. This helps us understand the world and cope with day-to-day life. There's nothing wrong with that. However,in a public forum such as this, we must be extra sensitive and be careful of the possible repercussions of such remarks. It may be nothing or it can spin off into something big. To be on the safe side, we avoid making them as much as possible. And because you are a moderator,you are expected to uphold the guidelines. Hence the expectation of you is higher than us mortals
But no worries. I am well chilled. It has been a good Monday. 3 hours to end of day. Have a good evening ahead. Cheers!
I lived in shanghai for 2 years
Just like every nationality there are some bad apples.
Although in Shanghai because it is one of the wealthier cities in China people there tend to feel more important then those from rural areas. Thats just inequality i guess, something that is very present, just look at the difference between pu xi and pu dong.
Although i have to say i did meet some lovely people in Shanghai which had a great attitude to life, not stuck up at all. I want to go back and visit sometime soon. I love that city
On the few occasions I visited, I always find the two guys appearing uninterested (not enough sleep?) but they provide good service once you let them know you are interested. OP is also the only shop I have seen the staff handling the lenses with glove and clean the lenses before putting back into the boxes after viewing
RICOH GRD I / II / III / IV / GR / GXR
i bought something from them before and i am pretty happy with them.
maybe they dont like the face of the op?
And greetings to ninelives and denizenx, it's been a long time.
only see you in Kopitiam huh? lol
See your kids also can wear adult clothes liao.. LOL
Anyway GUYS, I said they were Chinese because they looked Chinese and ppl can ID them. If I saw an Indian auntie I'll say I saw a bochup Indian auntie also. Please don't read too much into it...
Anyway, if this is how they operate, I'll probably call first. lol btw which one is Mr Gong? The older one (35+++) or the younger one (20s)? I don't mind bochup service if I know exactly what I want. But this thread was in echo to the Pentax one about not getting helpful service.
"I'm... dreaming... of a wide... angle~
Just like the ones I used to know~"
Well, have not been shooting for a long time, as all my time and energy is spent on looking after my kids. And the reason I'm in Kopitiam is because the standards in CS had improved leaps and bounds, and I feel too ashamed to offer my less than newbie comments to the photographers over here.
I have had encounters both good and bad with the Shanghainese, sometimes maybe bad mood cos too many come and goes never buy. But I made my stand and they offered really good and cheap stuff.
I bought several infact. . . after scouting and recon all the other shops in Peninsula. eg. PT-04TM , Softbox, 2meters Reflector Holder and others. The handsome one even take time to test and show how it works.
Currently, for the first time i sent in my canon lens that has fungus for service - charged at $120 - hope to collect it today- let's see if they do a job on it.