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    Dear all,

    Can anyone advice what is considered a suitable lense for portrait?
    I am currently using 24 - 70L f2.8.
    Not sure if it is suitable for portrait?

    Kindly give me a pointer or two please.

    Thanks

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    You are using but you don't know if it's suitable?

    What have you been using the lens for then?

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    yea..doesnt it have a nice focal length and aperture for potraits?
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    erm if u toking abt lens dedicated to portrait, imho, i think 50mm or 35mm wld be fine. but personally i wld very much prefer the 35mm. as for nice bokeh, of coz f-stop smaller the better la, but it often means more expensive oso.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo-lution View Post
    erm if u toking abt lens dedicated to portrait, imho, i think 50mm or 35mm wld be fine. but personally i wld very much prefer the 35mm. as for nice bokeh, of coz f-stop smaller the better la, but it often means more expensive oso.
    My guess you are trying to say smaller as in number smaller, but the opeing size of aperture is bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    My guess you are trying to say smaller as in number smaller, but the opeing size of aperture is bigger.
    yea. haha. always confuse myself with the terms. normally i wld juz say "bigger hole" to my grp of friends... haha....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeHee View Post
    Dear all,

    Can anyone advice what is considered a suitable lense for portrait?
    I am currently using 24 - 70L f2.8.
    Not sure if it is suitable for portrait?

    Kindly give me a pointer or two please.

    Thanks
    it is suitable, be it on APS size sensor or full frame sensor.

    usually we are looking for a mid tele to tele photo lens to be use for portrait, so any lens has a focal length from 85mm to 200mm (35mm film format) are good for portraiture.
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    Personally, i feel that the 24-70 DOF is nice but not good enough for portrait. Or maybe i should say, my skills sucks. HAhahahahaha.
    But then again, if you are using 24-70, what Aperture or Shutter speed do you normally shoot at presuming it is a normal sunny day?
    As i have seen and viewed thousands of pictures taken by good photographers, i am also keen to have that kind of picture taken given the limitation of my current knowledge on the digital world and imaging. Anyone care to tell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeHee View Post
    Personally, i feel that the 24-70 DOF is nice but not good enough for portrait. Or maybe i should say, my skills sucks. HAhahahahaha.
    But then again, if you are using 24-70, what Aperture or Shutter speed do you normally shoot at presuming it is a normal sunny day?
    As i have seen and viewed thousands of pictures taken by good photographers, i am also keen to have that kind of picture taken given the limitation of my current knowledge on the digital world and imaging. Anyone care to tell?
    suggest you go to any nearest National Library, pick up any books explain about photographing people or portrait photography, it will give you a better idea on how to photographing people.

    Still asking "what Aperture or Shutter speed do you normally shoot at presuming it is a normal sunny day" will not help you in shooting good portrait, you need to get pass this stage first.
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    Personally, i feel that the 24-70 DOF is nice but not good enough for portrait. Or maybe i should say, my skills sucks. HAhahahahaha.
    But then again, if you are using 24-70, what Aperture or Shutter speed do you normally shoot at presuming it is a normal sunny day?
    As i have seen and viewed thousands of pictures taken by good photographers, i am also keen to have that kind of picture taken given the limitation of my current knowledge on the digital world and imaging. Anyone care to tell?
    The 24-70mm is more than enough for portraits.If you want a dedicated portrait lens,get the 35mm f1.4 if you using crop or the 50mm f1.2 if you are using FF.If feeling rich,get the monster 85mm f1.2

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    Cool. Maybe the 50mm 1.8 for a start. No money for the 50 f1.2. I will have to eat grass then know that Singapore is a green city and never short of green. Hahahahaha. Thank you for all your comments. Do keep them flowing and hopefully more people like benefit from the short notes provided. CHeers

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    Hi HeeHee,

    24-70L/2.8 is a very good lens, and as many had mentioned this lens is more then adequate. For portraitures the most common focal length used are around 60-120mm, which is within the zoom range of your 24-70 assuming your camera has a crop factor of 1.6. If you can't get good pictures with this lens then I seriously doubt you would do any better with other lenses like 50/1.8 etc. In that case, as you mentioned it yourself, it is the photographer's skill rather then anything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by HeeHee View Post
    Personally, i feel that the 24-70 DOF is nice but not good enough for portrait.
    I guess what you meant to say here is bokeh rather then DOF? It doesn't make sense to say DOF of one lens is better then the other, as DOF is controlled by your aperture setting. Just stop down (increase the aperture f number) if you want deeper DOF. If you're talking about bokeh, 24-70L/2.8 does have very pleasant bokeh as well. See this example.

    Quote Originally Posted by HeeHee View Post
    But then again, if you are using 24-70, what Aperture or Shutter speed do you normally shoot at presuming it is a normal sunny day?
    The most common setting for portraiture is aperture priority mode as your subject is mostly stationary and you would want to control the DOF. For example, for half body shots you would probably want to use a wider aperture to have a shallower DOF in order to blur out the background. On the other hand, if you're shooting head-and-shoulder, you might want to stop down 1 or 2 stops to increase the DOF so that the eyes and nose are all in focus. As you can see, there isn't one "best aperture" as it varies according to your needs.

    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeHee View Post
    Cool. Maybe the 50mm 1.8 for a start. No money for the 50 f1.2. I will have to eat grass then know that Singapore is a green city and never short of green. Hahahahaha. Thank you for all your comments. Do keep them flowing and hopefully more people like benefit from the short notes provided. CHeers
    Allow me to break it down for you:

    Getting new lenses will not help you improve your photography long term. Sure, the f/1.8 will give you an uber shallow DOF, but along with that comes the need for good focusing technique.

    On top of that, you still need to understand aperture and shutter speed, and what effect they have on your image.

    The fact that you have a 24-70 and still do not find it suitable for portraiture shows that you are not maximising your lens. This lens is great for portraiture at the 70mm end, and of course, you can use a shorter focal length for a more environmental perspective.

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    personally i find the EF24-70 to be an extremely versatile lens. i have used it almost exclusively for almost all my shooting needs.

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    Also depends on your style and location constraints. Full body shots may require a different focal length. Cramped studios may also limit your working distance. The closer you are to your subject, the more exaggerated the features will be (nose look big, ears look small). I suggest you continue shooting and learning with what you have first and then see what you're missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipfreak View Post
    personally i find the EF24-70 to be an extremely versatile lens. i have used it almost exclusively for almost all my shooting needs.
    It's a great compromise lens, absolutely not good for portrait. I sold mine.

    The curvatures/designs of the lens to accomodate the 24mm end created a problem for the 70mm lens. DISTORTION. This is especially true when you shoot close up.

    The 28-70 2.8L, was far superior. Why?

    When compare to the 28-70, the 24-74 shows much higher degree of distortion. At the 50mm range, to a point that the local length for closer up shots/image will not be usable. At the 70mm end, the distortion is still higher with teh 24-70, and the degree of distortion is less than at the 500mm focal length, but still not acceptable.

    When and if I compare the 24-70 to a prime, it's not even fair.

    At the end of the day, if you want an all around lens to shoot a wide variety of genre, then the 24-70 is probably a good compromise. If you can find a mint copy of the 28-70, get that instead. Other than less distortion, I also found the 28-70 glass quality much better, especially how it handles contrast and color.

    If you are looking for a lens to shoot portrait, get one of the 85's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    It's a great compromise lens, absolutely not good for portrait. I sold mine.

    The curvatures/designs of the lens to accomodate the 24mm end created a problem for the 70mm lens. DISTORTION. This is especially true when you shoot close up.

    The 28-70 2.8L, was far superior. Why?

    When compare to the 28-70, the 24-74 shows much higher degree of distortion. At the 50mm range, to a point that the local length for closer up shots/image will not be usable. At the 70mm end, the distortion is still higher with teh 24-70, and the degree of distortion is less than at the 500mm focal length, but still not acceptable.

    When and if I compare the 24-70 to a prime, it's not even fair.

    At the end of the day, if you want an all around lens to shoot a wide variety of genre, then the 24-70 is probably a good compromise. If you can find a mint copy of the 28-70, get that instead. Other than less distortion, I also found the 28-70 glass quality much better, especially how it handles contrast and color.

    If you are looking for a lens to shoot portrait, get one of the 85's.
    i am a lazy shooter.

    as much as i want to, the 85 on my current camera is simply impractical. i am waiting to get the 5d mk2 end of the yr to use it with a 85 for portraiture. will pop on the 135 on it too.

    i have heard of how the 28-70 is better in terms of sharpness compared to the 24-70. but at the end of the day, its tough to beat primes for any zooms.

    i am thinking of selling off a few lenses to make way for the 85.

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    Cool. Maybe the 50mm 1.8 for a start. No money for the 50 f1.2. I will have to eat grass then know that Singapore is a green city and never short of green. Hahahahaha. Thank you for all your comments. Do keep them flowing and hopefully more people like benefit from the short notes provided. CHeers
    Can afford 24-70 cannot afford anything better than the 50mm f1.8?You gotta be kidding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -ReignOfComputer- View Post
    Can afford 24-70 cannot afford anything better than the 50mm f1.8?You gotta be kidding...
    The solution, really, is not to buy any more lenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipfreak View Post
    i am a lazy shooter.

    as much as i want to, the 85 on my current camera is simply impractical. i am waiting to get the 5d mk2 end of the yr to use it with a 85 for portraiture. will pop on the 135 on it too.

    i have heard of how the 28-70 is better in terms of sharpness compared to the 24-70. but at the end of the day, its tough to beat primes for any zooms.

    i am thinking of selling off a few lenses to make way for the 85.
    Me too, I don't even bother to change lens.

    Nowadays, I generally start with one lens and end the shoot with the same lens. And I only use 2 of the primes anyway

    The 28-70 is damn nice. It's far superior to the 24-40 in all aspects. If I can find a mint copy, I will seriously consider it.

    Then, there is the CZ 85 1.4 Planar for EF mount to consider .....
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