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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    This might help...



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    Quote Originally Posted by attap seed View Post
    for a sharp photo under low light, neither camera nor the photographer.

    its a basic, rocksteady Tripod that matters.
    nah, there is the flash and strobe etc, bean bag as well.....

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    Whether a picture is good or not is determine by your eye.
    A picture if 1 out of 10 person say it is no good means it is no good.
    Then why no good? it because of that person eye.
    When you take the picture you did not pre decide whether you want to take a good picture or bad picture. When you choose you equipement you will not go for a faulty or low grade one.
    When you take a shot, it is to show other ppl who have missed that moment, or to let people comment about yourself.

    I think keep taking picture and preserve moment is most important.

    Quote Originally Posted by HTCahHTC View Post
    hey guys.
    i've had one burning question since dunno when.
    was wondering...
    do you guys think A GOOD PICTURE is relying on the camera or the person behind the camera?
    let's be frank, some people will agree that the camera is the one.
    just wanna hear some honest answers from you guys.

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    I'm still waiting for the day when they release a camera that will shoot on it's own. Then I can say... it's the camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    I'm still waiting for the day when they release a camera that will shoot on it's own. Then I can say... it's the camera.
    still, ppl will blame the pg for buying this kinda auto pilot camera
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    will ansel adams even bother to think about it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flintflameinferno View Post
    will ansel adams even bother to think about it ?
    Ansel Adams will tell you it's the camera. Because the rest of the world knows that it's all about Ansel Adams the Photographer

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    Well, I think is the person that can take a good picture.... The camera is just a tool.

    It's the same like a guitar, the sound produced will depend on who plays on it.
    Your fastest camera is as fast as your slowest lens

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    30 years ago, I would say 90% Photographer and 10% camera (IQ pretty much dependent on the optics)

    Today, my opinion is 60% Photographer and 40% camera. Reason is that the modern camera has pretty much taken over all the critical decision making. It's almost idiot-proof up to the point of picture composition and camera operations(You still need know how to set the dial to full auto !)

    Don't get me wrong, I'm very much for new technology and I think this new level of automation allows one to focus on getting the 'Picture' rather than worry about the camera's settings.
    I'm happy with it as long as I am allowed to make changes to any of the critical settings (Aperture, Shutter speed, ISO and focus) whenever in the P,A,S,M mode.

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    If u believe in bleach(anime) theory, how well you know your tools(zanpakuto), and how well you know yourself to be compatible to your tools and unless the full potential? especially the characteristics/capabilities of the lens...
    lastly how well you know your enemy(subject/environment)?
    Last edited by DarkPa1adin; 22nd June 2010 at 12:47 AM.

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    I'll like to share a quote by a photographer called Casey Hoch:

    "Expensive cameras will only give you expensive photographs. Having said that, if you know what you're doing, a 'fancy' camera can give you more options, however in the right hands a wooden box with film in it can produce a picture better than any Nikon or Canon."

    The above quote is worth pondering!!

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHLEW View Post
    I'll like to share a quote by a photographer called Casey Hoch:

    "Expensive cameras will only give you expensive photographs. Having said that, if you know what you're doing, a 'fancy' camera can give you more options, however in the right hands a wooden box with film in it can produce a picture better than any Nikon or Canon."

    The above quote is worth pondering!!

    Cheers.
    LEW
    yes agree, it's true and why not, right? Hmm...I like the saying of "in the right hands a wooden box with film in it can produce a picture better"and sotoo
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    I'm still waiting for the day when they release a camera that will shoot on it's own. Then I can say... it's the camera.
    Youmanz, but for me I'll wait till I get to see the actual pics before I conclude it as a Camera, all bcoz what if I took a shot of a Sweet & Lovely lady and the pic came out with some beard and moustache around the mouth area...then Whoa...hahaha...
    Anything that can take pictures...happy already lor...(..but...Hasselblad_H5D-50 as my Workhorse)

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    Define "Better".

    Different pple have different definitions of what is a good picture to them.

    Artistic pictures.. yes, a wooden box with film in it maybe can produce "better" pictures.

    Sports, Reportage.. Can a wooden box with film (pin-hole camera?) produce anything close to a Top-end canon with a shutter presser who just aim and shoot in full auto and 10fps..? Maybe yes? Maybe Not..

    hmmmmm....

    In any case, it boils down to the expectation of the photographer and what he wants.

    To some pple, a well exposed sharp picture is better than a OOF blurry picture with severed limps..
    To some pple, a OOF blurry picture with severed limps is better than a well exposed sharp picture. (Artistic)


    Quote Originally Posted by SHLEW View Post
    "Expensive cameras will only give you expensive photographs. Having said that, if you know what you're doing, a 'fancy' camera can give you more options, however in the right hands a wooden box with film in it can produce a picture better than any Nikon or Canon."
    Last edited by Limsgp; 22nd June 2010 at 01:03 PM.

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    Its 70-30 to the photographer for me.

    70%: Got a fren with the same camera. Her pics are... ok, dun mean to sound so hao lian or think my pics like damn good ah, but her pics really looked ordinary coz I can shoot those pics with a PnS. And she doesn't really explore her camera as much, so she doesn't even know the full specs of her camera. She just go on P mode and snap2. So i dunno why such ppl actually bother "investing" in such an expensive equipment and in the end, dun even know how to utilise it fully.

    30%: Without this 30%, a pic cannot exist. I'm still discovering new things abt my camera and loving the process coz now my unedited Canon pics can look sthg like Nikon's pics. Lol! --> I have great respect for both Canon and Nikon coz I use both interchangeably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limsgp View Post
    To some pple, a well exposed sharp picture is better than a OOF blurry picture with severed limps..
    To some pple, a OOF blurry picture with severed limps is better than a well exposed sharp picture. (Artistic)
    Believe you are refering to the "Artistic" bias and the "Accurate" bias above
    Both share a common ground, it is called 'Emotion' !

    Really good pictures makes you feel something when you view it, it can transport you back in time i.e: the viewer's childhood days. It can also create fear, dread, interests, love, etc.

    For me, a really good photo will stir emotions just like a good movie.

    Quote Originally Posted by koplady11 View Post
    So i dunno why such ppl actually bother "investing" in such an expensive equipment and in the end, dun even know how to utilise it fully.
    Your friend probably thought that having the best equipment will automatic produce the best results ...but then again, there are those who will buy the best and are contented shooting in auto mode all the time, Just like people who buy fancy sports cars that can do 250+ kmph but never drive beyond 80kmph.
    My point is: It's their money ...so it's their choice ! there is no right or wrong
    Last edited by Ghostfit; 25th June 2010 at 11:12 AM. Reason: Addon

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    I know a photographer who still uses a humble Nikon D80 and still produces AMAZING images, even better than the ones I’ve taken with my ‘more advanced’ D300. On the other hand, I’ve seen guys sport full-frame DSLRs like a Canon 5D MarkII or a Nikon D700 but once you see their photos, it becomes apparent that you need to learn more than just pointing and shooting with a great camera to fully maximize your expensive investment.

    I’ve read a story of Jascha Heifetz, known as one of the greatest violinist of all time. After one of his concerts, an elderly lady approached him and said “Mr. Heifetz, I just love the sound your violin makes.” He picked up his violin, held it up to his ear and said “Funny, I don’t hear a thing.”

    When the time comes where you give a monkey a camera, and that monkey starts to produce great photos simply by having opposable thumbs to hold that camera and click on the shutter button, that’s when I’ll believe that it's the camera, not the person behind it.


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    Last edited by dannysantos; 12th July 2010 at 03:28 PM.

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    the one who behind the camera...

    cheers.

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    I believe its the person behind the camera that matters.

    Camera is just a tool, while people are living things that use these tools to capture emotions, special moments and possibly create spectacular images as we inject life and passion into the images through lighting and various techniques Another important piece of equipment is a positive attitude!

    Just my 2 cents
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    Default Re: camera or person behind camera?

    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    not againnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

    this is like, the 5th time at least, this year.
    Be glad it did not come monthly.....
    Art is perception; Perception is art.

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