Don't lawyer's always suggest to meet with the people involved for possible settlement before going to Court?
I'm drafting a package, where they choose the no. of rolls. Etc, for 1 day malay wedding, choose between 4-8 rolls. I'm thinking that I would shot the same no. of pics regardless no. of rolls they choose, but only return the soft copies according to the rolls they wanted earlier., ie, for a 4 rolls package, mean 4 rolls of the best that I shot; same as the printouts. While the rest I keep and dun even show them? Hmm.. Any comments?
Well, perhaps you can make an appointment with a lawyer to find out . Not sure what the bone to pick here is.
If the only advice you want from a lawyer is "Try to talk with the other side first", then I'm sure the lawyers you pay for advice will be very happy.
If I remember correctly, my Biz law lecturer love to emphasis the point that "The law does not protect stupid people"...do excuse my language
As far as contract is concern, $1 is a good enough consideration for a payment and as far as blur picture is concern....this is up to the individual's interpretation...so...its back to square one..I can see 2 scenario to this ending:
1. Photographer's integrity /ethics
Sudden awaking of the photographer's conscious and decided to compensate couple for lousy job
2. Couple sue for damages
Sue for emotional damages and loss of intangible assets (i.e valuable memories...etc etc)
my 2 cents worth... Good Luck
Hey guys, both of you are right on different perspectives. The argument is not on how much images should be given to buyers (as of this thread) but on quality and litigation. Itís a subjective issue, unless view and judge by a few of you whom are in the wedding photography trade.
The objectives of my poll are:
1) to gauge what are out there as a practice
2) to set expectation both from buyers and sellers
3) to prevent argument and litigation
As an association, WPAS may need to set up a sub-committee to mitigate or judge whatís acceptable quality and whatís not, but only for members. Itís an issue we can discuss in our next networking.
just1book, no kidding!
Wrong, that is not the issue raised in your post #39, which I was responding to; it was only brought up later.
I quote your post 39 again for your easy reference - please read and tell me where does it raise the possibility of settlement:
I did, please re-read my post #39 which question the small claim's ability to judge an art which you answer without any relevent to current case. Cleaner or not is not art, thus no issues here.
And I quote "If the only advice you want from a lawyer is "Try to talk with the other side first", then I'm sure the lawyers you pay for advice will be very happy." Seem to suggest otherwise.
I believe in givig them good prints (maybe around 200) but will give them all the pics taken without pp (in DVD).
Also, just to add, since you're paid for the shots, all the pics during the period you're employed by them, belong to the clients, not to you.
Last edited by shahrulesa; 13th December 2008 at 11:50 AM.
I am not a pro but I would like to share what I feel is appropriate.
Customer should pay only for what is good and what they want. This should be fair for both parties and gives Photograpers the incentive to improve on their quality.
As a pro, you should at least do a first cut to remove any shots that failed to make the grade. This is to ensure that you only shows your best and I believe it is a normal practice.
think there is a lot of practice.
I dont really see the issue of giving "all" photos. After all the "all" is define by us. I dont think the client would want to look through 1000 - 2000 pics. Guess they will fall asleep by then.
Its impt to filter off all the cmi e.g. blur, dono wat u shooting type of shot. The so so shots (unless its very impt shot).
I think it will be good to give them "all" the photos, as they will not come back to you to say "hey can you help me print 2x pic 123, 1 x pic 125" then another month come back and ask for a few more prints. How much can we earn for that few 4R photos?
Poll is closed since it is so old. But the thread is still open for discussions.
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