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Old 13th August 2008   #1
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Default Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

Hi everyone, i'm thinking of getting a uwa lens. currently using a d80 with 18-135 kit lens. any opinions on which lens between the 3 is a better buy?
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Old 13th August 2008   #2
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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

If you wanna go really wide, 10-20. For sharpness, from what I heard, 11-16.
I have the 10-20 and am using it with D40. The pictures were sharp enough for me
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Pls share how much and where did you buy it? TIA
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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

You can check out the following link for test results of these lenses that you are looking for...

http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/overview

Personally, I use the Tokina 12-24 f/4, and I'm happy with it
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Old 16th August 2008   #5
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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

thanks for the feedback guys! i'm still puzzled about which to choose. narrowing my choices down to probably between the sigma 10-20mm and tokina 11-16.
anymore opinions?
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If you're not going to do much low light work, the 10-20mm is more versetile and would be my pick.
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i am using the Tokina 11-16. amazing.
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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

Originally Posted by dingzyangz View Post
i am using the Tokina 11-16. amazing.
Sidetrack question, does the Tokina work with Nikon D40x ? Seems like if D40x users (Like me) am looking for the UWA lens, then only the Sigma 12-24mm is available amongst the 3 ?

Or am I mistaken ?

Thanks in advance....
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how much u all get for 11-16?
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Old 18th August 2008   #10
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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

Originally Posted by ianwurn View Post
Sidetrack question, does the Tokina work with Nikon D40x ? Seems like if D40x users (Like me) am looking for the UWA lens, then only the Sigma 12-24mm is available amongst the 3 ?

Or am I mistaken ?

Thanks in advance....
10-20 oso can be used what.
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Old 18th August 2008   #11
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10-20 oso can be used what.
Ah yes, silly me. Just checked slrgear and saw the HSM.... hee..... THANKS !

Eh, btw JaPhotos, are you using the D40 with the Tokina 11-16mm 2.8 with MF ?

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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

currently using D40, but my 11-16 got a bit of delay so not on hand yet. hehe
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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

Originally Posted by ianwurn View Post
Sidetrack question, does the Tokina work with Nikon D40x ? Seems like if D40x users (Like me) am looking for the UWA lens, then only the Sigma 12-24mm is available amongst the 3 ?

Or am I mistaken ?

Thanks in advance....
The Tokina would not AF on D40/x or D60. Sigma lenses with HSM would be able to AF on D40/x or D60... so your options would be limited if you are using it on D40/x or D60.
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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

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how much u all get for 11-16?
MS Colour is selling at $888 plus free Tokina filter. Stocks are out and should be coming in this week. You would need to reserve your lens with them and they will give you a call when the stocks are in. Cheers!
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TS... let the pictures do the talking for Tokina 11-16

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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

On a crop camera the Sigma 10-20 comes out tops for me, despite having a slower aperture than the 11-16. I also find it really versatile, having used it for environmental portraits (not photos taken in portrait orientation mind you, really portraits, of real people), as well as street, urbanscape and landscape.

Here's some samples:







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Old 18th August 2008   #17
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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

nice picture calebk. but from the reviews i read at kenrockwell, the tokina seems to be really sharp, maybe even sharper than the nikkor 12-24. Have you used the tokina 11-16? if so..do you have any pictures taken by that lens?
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Old 18th August 2008   #18
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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

I am using D80 and also looking for a WA. I have narrow down my choices to Tokina 12-24 and Nikon 12-24. I dont like Sigma's 10-20 barrel distortion.

Tokina for me is sharp and the price is good.

If you can afford it, go for the NIkkor lenses. Else, tokina.
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Old 19th August 2008   #19
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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

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nice picture calebk. but from the reviews i read at kenrockwell, the tokina seems to be really sharp, maybe even sharper than the nikkor 12-24. Have you used the tokina 11-16? if so..do you have any pictures taken by that lens?
I don't. Why would I have duplicate focal lengths? Haha.

I do believe kenrockwell was NOT referring to the Tokina 11-16 but the Tokina 12-24 f/4. Personally, I find that KRW's Sigma is probably a bad copy. I do not do any sharpening to my images, and I find the Sigma to output pretty good detail on its own.

Pokka, the Sigma actually has very minimal barrel distortion. I'll show you some samples below. The distortion you see in my earlier post is due to perspective, and is inherent of all UWA lenses.


Sigma 10-20mm, EOS 1DMkII (1.3x crop), 13mm


Sigma 10-20mm, EOS 30D (1.6x crop), 10mm


Sigma 10-20mm, EOS 30D, 10mm

You can see that even on a format larger than it was intended (first image), distortions hardly show up in real life application.
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Old 21st August 2008   #20
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Default Re: Sigma 12-24mm, 10-20mm or tokina 11-16mm?

thanks alot for the sample pictures calebk! i'm leaning towards the sigma 10-20mm now! haha..hope i can find a good copy cos i heard sigma's quality varies alot. true?
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