Have to ask Adobe or the like about it.
Have to ask Adobe or the like about it.
I believe so. ..if they want to.
There is a new program/service that's in beta. It's called TinEye and it can look for your image on the web even though its be part of a montage. It's by invite only at the moment but looks extremely promising for checking if your images are misused.
Last edited by Zohan; 5th August 2008 at 08:47 PM.
Your position of compassion is commendable. Our world needs more people like you.
However, in light of the undeniable things that have happened, I still stand by what I shared earlier in that the affected do not have to go all out for blood, report to the authorities and have this person burdened by a criminal record, IF in fact he is only 18, but on the other hand, he should not be allowed to get away scott free with just the embarassment and a slap on the wrist
What is crystal clear is that it appears he knows how to apologies and beg very well. In fact, he seems to be very good at it, giving the impression that he must have had a lot of practice before.
How sincere is his apology?
Afterall, talk is dirt cheap.
It's so cheap in fact, bear in mind the FACT that the so called 'Joe' used all his talk to try and lie again in his profuse apologies and to gain our compassion and trust.
Like I said, I don't believe in unleashing the full extent of the law on him, but at the same time, he should not go unpunished as that sets a precedence.
IF IF IF he is genuine, and has no money as he claims, and he provides all documents to prove that ALL his family as well is of lesser resources, I am sure the other affected parties will bear that in mind. Hopefully, they will give him a second chance by not taking this case to the authorities. That in itself IS already is one of the biggest chances he could ever get in life, if any.
Please do not be offended, but it may be that you do NOT make a living solely out of photography. Your family does not have to rely on the bread and butter you bring in from photography assignments, being a police officer, you have a constant source of income.
Some of the victims do have to sustain themselves and feed their children and families solely from the income they make from photography.
Some of them may be supporting their elderly parents, or another sick member of the family helping to pay for hospital or medical bills, or have other forms of burdens and hardship themselves.
I can assure you that there are photographers who already have a stack of outstanding bills just waiting for a decently paying assignment. Theirs is a life of sheer survival, and not luxury.
Photographers maintaining a full-time business with other partners and also maintaining a studio have even bigger burdens to consider.
When you look at the larger picture, only then does the gravity of the crimes become evident.
As a reasonable, compassionate and responsible adult, considering the ways in which Joe's criminal actions could negatively impact so many others who are merely trying to make an honest living and feed their families, do you still feel it is wise letting Joe go without any form of tangible punishment?
Last edited by Dream Merchant; 5th August 2008 at 09:03 PM.
Even with my mentor,Le Photographe.I believe he had his works stolen before but I do not think there was an apology.
I know that talk is cheap and actions are always louder but in this instance,the fact that this 'Joe' has came out to apologise says it all for me.Like I said,I have not seen anyone else who has done any confession like this before.
Is there any thread in ClubSnap where the culprit came forward to apologise after stealing others photographs?Please enlighten me if I am wrong.
Yes,I am a police officer and I know that it is my job to ensure that such actions by 'Joe' are not accepted.
But I have checked it out with my pals with regards to this case.Copyright law is very vast and according to one of my friends(he is a reliable source of knowledge for me),when a photographer takes a photograph,the copyright of the photo belongs to the person or the couple in the photograph.
I am looking at the big picture and I totally understand that most of the outstanding photographers affected by this whole thing depend on their photographs for a living. "Some of them may be supporting their elderly parents, or another sick member of the family helping to pay for hospital or medical bills, or have other forms of burdens and hardship themselves."
I totally understand that and I feel the bitterness with what 'Joe' did. But like in my previous thread,he took down the site and in multiply,his reputation is ruined.'Joe' has came out to apologise and I don't care if he's the real culprit.All I know is that there is an apology.Someone has came out to apologise for the mistakes and that is enough.You do not see this everyday.
This is the first of its kind here and guys,the precedence is already set. From a compassionate point of view,if you see the after effects of the whole thing,I personally think you will not condone with severe actions for the guy.
Cos from my experience as an officer,with all the threats and hostilities,I will not be surprise if this fella chooses not to face the affected parties and apologise.My mentor,had told me that he will be meeting 'Joe' as arranged by Fotoudavid.But he will be scared out of his wits after reading the threads.
I am not speaking up for the fella,'Joe' but neither do I approve of his actions. I am a victim but sometimes,a bit of empathy will go a long way.I am having a baby soon and like my missus always say,good will be rewarded and the bad,they'll have their day.
I'm sure 'Joe' will have his and when that day comes,I do not want to be a part of it..
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a wrong-doing is a wrong-doing.. but a judgement on punishment can vary.
He has stolen, apologised but lied and looks like someone who can write well. This shows his mental capacity.
He also may have lied to clients, both prospective and confirmed clients, (we don't know how many cos he can also lie again) and as such, can be accused of cheating or fooling his clients.
Coming upfront to apologise and lie again doesn't make him any better than those who steal and keep quiet.
What he should do is to perhaps make a newspaper apology( to both photogs who got rip and to the clients he spoke to) so that we know who he is and he sincerely regret about doing it.
One point - if you look around overseas forums, you will see that 'being a man and owning up' is generally applauded.
I am sure Joe is 'well-read', as also noticed by Razor, and have picked up this useful technique - come out, pretend to be a 'man', own up and apologise and hope that he can get away scott free.
As regards the issue of copyrights and intellectual property rights, since I am not a lawyer, I would actually check with a lawyer versed in these matters, and not anyone else, regardless of how well-meaning friends and associates may be.
I'm sorry, and without prejudice nor offense, but I do not think the full scope of what sort of impact and precedence all this has set for working professionals has been grasped, especially if 'Joe' is allowed to get away without some form of tangible punishment.
Also, for the record, please allow me to state as fact that I do not know this 'Joe', nor do I personally know any of the victims or have any business dealings of a photographic nature with the said victims*, and have no vested interest in this case. I am merely an outside observer, and as such, may be in a better position to offer unbiased opinion.
Edit to add: I am not aware of the full list of victims.
Last edited by Dream Merchant; 5th August 2008 at 10:08 PM.
sO in the end no one get to meet Joe?
A hunch feeling that this fellow still lying. =/
If everythings goes well, will settle fast.
Hope to see this thread locked after all settled.
Locked but dun delete, serve as it is to show.
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Last edited by lancey; 5th August 2008 at 10:32 PM.
Supposed to meet today, due to ritexposure see his calendar wrongly, he is suppose to have class today, so meeting up with him was scheduled to tomorrow same time same place.
All affected parties involved are been informed.
Eat breath LIVERPOOL!!!
Ritexposure PMed me, stating he hopes that all photographers let him off, as he really gains nothing at all. And he stated he was afraid to meet up today, as he afraid's that all involved will gang up against him.
I have informed all involve in today's meetup not to be there. He have yet to reply me thru PM and sms.
As dun wanna waste ppl's precious time, i will stop all arrangment with him. He had wasted ppl's effort, time and work. He does not appreciate what i have gone thru, hoping to settle fast and helping him, he choose to turn away.
My trust for this guy was below sea level.
Eat breath LIVERPOOL!!!