Nikon "D2H" arrives!

Pepper · 11th July 2003

http://www.photim.com/Infos/UneInfo.asp?N=880

French to English Translation:

Nikon "D2H" arrives! One awaited it for June... it will be introduced on July 22: it is the substitute of current Nikon D1H. The "D2" will aim the reporters clearly! For the moment, it is an open secret: the presentations "under the table" already started in the photo retailers and to the persons in charge for the central merchandizings but, as of the next week, Nikon will put the turbo one with more deprived presentations and of greater amplitude, but always under embargo. But it is on next 22 July which the new numerical reflex camera professional Nikon will take really its take-off since it is on this date that famous "the D2 will be revealed" about which one speaks on all the forums since months.

In fact, Nikon did not have any more the choice and was to go quickly: vis-a-vis the EOS 10D and in excellent Eos-1 DIGITAL, its sales stagnate and owe their relatively good level only with the dubious delivery periods of Gun and with the strong reserve of its users vis-a-vis a change of mounting, always painful. Because, on the ground, neither D100 nor the D1H and D1X make the weight vis-a-vis the Canon models.

Advertisement of the "D2" (provisional name of war!) is thus strategic and will allow Nikon to go back on rail, considering this apparatus will be only the first of a long series. Nikon puts the package besides and will not be satisfied to present a version alone of the substitute of the D1H: the apparatus will be surrounded by quantity of peripherals whose, obviously, the objectives awaited so much, necessary to cover the format of sensor "cuts APS".

For the moment, the urgency consisted in reassuring the professionals. The new numerical reflex camera Nikon will thus make its first weapons at the time of the Championships of the world of athletics. Right now, we located several cases between the hands of professionals who play, to some extent, the beta-testers... This new numerical reflex camera aims the professionals clearly and will be characterized by so short latency times which it will be difficult to measure them, of the gusts with a rate (8 i/s in full resolution), a spectacular number of images (buffer high capacity) and a transfer time of the data towards the storage mediums considerably improved.

*** the INNOVATION If you read our édito last month, in which we imagination, you reproach the numerical apparatuses for missing will smile: the new numerical reflex camera Nikon is able to communicate with outside without wire! More need for wire to the leg, therefore, to even transfer the images towards a computer, with the help of the passage by an application software, to control the remote apparatus! At the hour of Wi-Fi, this reflex camera can thus behave like a peripheral in network!

*** OBJECTIVE: Nikon will present, around this apparatus, a whole environment of professional accessories and, obviously, objectives. In this connection, let us reassure the users who could have believed the rumours of change of mounting: NIKON DOES NOT CHANGE MOUNTING and remains faithful to its sensor "cuts APS". Therefore, not of full format 24x36 as regards the sensor but, despite everything, an astute solution for the amateurs of broad framing. One will return there. The sensors used on the new numerical reflex cameras Nikon preserve the same size that the old ones and Nikon remains faithful to its promise: the coefficient of realignment of x1,5 is maintained. After the 12-24mm, interesting solution of waiting but which presents neither the opening hoped by the pros, nor the beach of focal distances wished by the amateurs, Nikon must thus supplement its range of objcetifs special for numerical photograph. We await in particular a 9mm f/2,8, essential to the reporters accustomed to work with the 19mm. But we await also new Af-s zooms. To follow!

*** THE RESOLUTION: It is not époustouflante and Nikon will not play hunting for the pixels, being satisfied with a basic resolution of 4 Mpix, "dopable". On the other hand, new Nikon-D will have of an excellent sensitivity and a signal processing to make fade of desire the quibblers of the numerical "noise". You remember what had arrived at D1: Nikon "had astutely cut out" its pixels in the direction height and had thus doubled the practical resolution. Does Eh well one start again the same operation, but in the other direction? and one thus doubles still the resolution (except for a hair). In fact, all the efforts were related to speed and Nikon from now on will communicate on the fact that the quality of the images is not only business of pixels. One will speak again of sensitivity, of background noise and one will see that these elements, managed well, are better than a large package of pixels in bulk! Some experimental cases turn already, between the hands of photographers more or less held with the secrecy. Several hundreds of Nikon D will be released from here the end of August for the Championships of athletics, but the Nikon innovations will not arrive on the market before the autumn.

*** the PRICE Since the first publication of this information, you were several hundreds to ask us for the price. One cannot give it for the moment bus Nikon did not communicate on this apparatus and it would be thus premature to draw from the plans on comet. You do not wait however miracles: its tariff will be resolutely professional... but nevertheless lower than that of Eos-1 DIGITAL which is, in fact, its only true competitor although the personality of the two apparatuses is very, very different: - new Nikon is typically an apparatus of report, much more at ease on the ground of the report that on that of the studio; - Gun will be able to continue to propose the resolution of its case pro and the advantages of the full format 24x36.

*** AND QUID OF D200? The question is on all the lips: and if there were, in addition to the case pro, D200 for the "large amateur"? It is obvious that it arrives! But its effective marketing will not start before a few months and the career of D100 will have thus to be prolonged until spring 2004, date on which it will leave the scene after a career whose longevity constitutes almost a record! By then, one can envisage new falls of price: D100 is negotiated dèjà very well and, as the problems of delivery of its Canon rival reabsorb, the tariff of D100 melts! Considering the launchings planned for the re-entry, in particular with the competition of the substitute of Minolta Dimâge 7hi and the exit of numerical Pentax, Nikon will have to use all the weapons in its possession to remain competitive. That which the rumour calls "D200" will be able then to be born and to take the relai. The smartest readers will have noticed a small "inconsistency" in our information. For example, we speak about "D2", but not about D2H nor of D2X... However, there still, the rumour is right, but is mistaken simply in initials! Not question for Nikon step by step of replacing the D1H by a D2H and the D1X by a D2X! The confusion which exists between the models is already significant and Nikon will want to differentiate its future apparatuses. The model about which we currently speak as about a "D2" will open the ball but one has to expect to see the future numerical Nikon range restructuring itself around more logical names: - D1, D3 and D5 for the professional range; - D100, D300... and why not D500 for the series amateur! Of course, it is only futurology and all that us enmene until in 2005... but it is allowed to dream, not? With very soon for more precise details!

(Foot-note; do not dream: our photograph represents D1!)

West_ray · 11th July 2003

wah !!!!!!!!!!!! read till my eyes

sadness · 11th July 2003

hi brothers!

i tot my ah beng ang moh difficult to understood siah

the tranformered french to ang moh even more cannot tahan.

wa...really chim till my eyes chimm chimm ah!

really got new D2h huh??
wa...

like D24 durians like that leh...
the name sounds orbit...

taker · 12th July 2003

"D2h" will be 4mp, 8fps.

Heard D200 won't come until Spring 2004.

And Canon is releasing a digital Rebel Ti version 6mp, less features than 10D. US$1000.

icebooke · 13th July 2003

D2 is 15 frames in burst mode.

fighthefuture · 13th July 2003

wahhh ... pepper out of curiosity, did u do the translation urself?

SNAG · 13th July 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by fighthefuture
wahhh ... pepper out of curiosity, did u do the translation urself?

he should be using translation stuff like babelfish.

travelshooter · 13th July 2003

hey pepper
have you checked out robgalbraith.com/ forums/nikon to see when the due date for D2H is?
sounds like you are on the right wavelength.

Pepper · 14th July 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by fighthefuture
wahhh ... pepper out of curiosity, did u do the translation urself?

No, as SNAG said, I used babelfish translation.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Pepper · 14th July 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by travelshooter
hey pepper
have you checked out robgalbraith.com/ forums/nikon to see when the due date for D2H is?
sounds like you are on the right wavelength.

Sounds like 22nd July.

randomwalk · 21st July 2003

I'm very disappointed!

4mp - wtf were they thinking? Only catering for press photographers.

YSLee · 21st July 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by randomwalk
I'm very disappointed!

4mp - wtf were they thinking? Only catering for press photographers.

another one. *sigh*

vince123123 · 21st July 2003

rofl they just signed their own death warrant making it worse than the D100 :P

Quote:

Originally posted by randomwalk
I'm very disappointed!

4mp - wtf were they thinking? Only catering for press photographers.

tsystem · 21st July 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by vince123123
rofl they just signed their own death warrant making it worse than the D100 :P

When you say worse, do you mean Having less megapixels?

If so, what makes you think having less megapixels - makes the camera worse than the D100 ?

Newbiez · 21st July 2003

randomwalk · 21st July 2003

Maybe I shouldn't pas judgment on something that hasn't been *officially* announced yet. But isn't it true that more megapixels = more resolving power = better picture? Especially when blown up?

I'm not sure what the sensor size is lah-maybe 4mp is not the effective measure. Presuming that it is, then it seems clear to me that the D2h is directed towards the press photographers since their pictures don't get blown up much, if at all.

Have I missed something?

willyfoo · 21st July 2003

We use 4MP for A4 magazine prints...
No problems at all. There are that many of you that need prints larger than A4???

Astin · 21st July 2003

If there is a higher MP count, it would be possible to take a shot and then crop it out. We then still be able to print A4 size after cropping.
And I also saw some magazines that have a dobule-spread image where the image will spread through 2 A4 pages.
Just my thought, I am not in publishing/advertising and not sure the rule of the games.

vince123123 · 21st July 2003

yeah i should have been more specific, i meant less megapixels.
in any event, to me and my uses, less megapixels means worse.

Quote:

Originally posted by tsystem
When you say worse, do you mean Having less megapixels?

If so, what makes you think having less megapixels - makes the camera worse than the D100 ?

Jed · 21st July 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by randomwalk
I'm very disappointed!

4mp - wtf were they thinking? Only catering for press photographers.

First, I can confidently state that you probably don't need more than 4mp. That "you" was specific.

Second, yes the D2h is aimed primarily at press snappers. But then, that's hardly a surprise is it, given that its predecessor the D1h was also a speed inclined camera.

Is it only for press snappers though? Nope. You can bet your bottom doller that there'll be a good number of amateurs who just can't resist the latest and greatest, 8fps, even though they need neither and would be better off with a D100, D1x or whatever else. Like amateurs who buy a 1D over a 10D. Or a 1D over a D1x.

11th July 2003	#1
Pepper Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: West Posts: 249	Nikon "D2H" arrives! http://www.photim.com/Infos/UneInfo.asp?N=880 French to English Translation: Nikon "D2H" arrives! One awaited it for June... it will be introduced on July 22: it is the substitute of current Nikon D1H. The "D2" will aim the reporters clearly! For the moment, it is an open secret: the presentations "under the table" already started in the photo retailers and to the persons in charge for the central merchandizings but, as of the next week, Nikon will put the turbo one with more deprived presentations and of greater amplitude, but always under embargo. But it is on next 22 July which the new numerical reflex camera professional Nikon will take really its take-off since it is on this date that famous "the D2 will be revealed" about which one speaks on all the forums since months. In fact, Nikon did not have any more the choice and was to go quickly: vis-a-vis the EOS 10D and in excellent Eos-1 DIGITAL, its sales stagnate and owe their relatively good level only with the dubious delivery periods of Gun and with the strong reserve of its users vis-a-vis a change of mounting, always painful. Because, on the ground, neither D100 nor the D1H and D1X make the weight vis-a-vis the Canon models. Advertisement of the "D2" (provisional name of war!) is thus strategic and will allow Nikon to go back on rail, considering this apparatus will be only the first of a long series. Nikon puts the package besides and will not be satisfied to present a version alone of the substitute of the D1H: the apparatus will be surrounded by quantity of peripherals whose, obviously, the objectives awaited so much, necessary to cover the format of sensor "cuts APS". For the moment, the urgency consisted in reassuring the professionals. The new numerical reflex camera Nikon will thus make its first weapons at the time of the Championships of the world of athletics. Right now, we located several cases between the hands of professionals who play, to some extent, the beta-testers... This new numerical reflex camera aims the professionals clearly and will be characterized by so short latency times which it will be difficult to measure them, of the gusts with a rate (8 i/s in full resolution), a spectacular number of images (buffer high capacity) and a transfer time of the data towards the storage mediums considerably improved. * the INNOVATION If you read our édito last month, in which we imagination, you reproach the numerical apparatuses for missing will smile: the new numerical reflex camera Nikon is able to communicate with outside without wire! More need for wire to the leg, therefore, to even transfer the images towards a computer, with the help of the passage by an application software, to control the remote apparatus! At the hour of Wi-Fi, this reflex camera can thus behave like a peripheral in network! * OBJECTIVE: Nikon will present, around this apparatus, a whole environment of professional accessories and, obviously, objectives. In this connection, let us reassure the users who could have believed the rumours of change of mounting: NIKON DOES NOT CHANGE MOUNTING and remains faithful to its sensor "cuts APS". Therefore, not of full format 24x36 as regards the sensor but, despite everything, an astute solution for the amateurs of broad framing. One will return there. The sensors used on the new numerical reflex cameras Nikon preserve the same size that the old ones and Nikon remains faithful to its promise: the coefficient of realignment of x1,5 is maintained. After the 12-24mm, interesting solution of waiting but which presents neither the opening hoped by the pros, nor the beach of focal distances wished by the amateurs, Nikon must thus supplement its range of objcetifs special for numerical photograph. We await in particular a 9mm f/2,8, essential to the reporters accustomed to work with the 19mm. But we await also new Af-s zooms. To follow! * THE RESOLUTION: It is not époustouflante and Nikon will not play hunting for the pixels, being satisfied with a basic resolution of 4 Mpix, "dopable". On the other hand, new Nikon-D will have of an excellent sensitivity and a signal processing to make fade of desire the quibblers of the numerical "noise". You remember what had arrived at D1: Nikon "had astutely cut out" its pixels in the direction height and had thus doubled the practical resolution. Does Eh well one start again the same operation, but in the other direction? and one thus doubles still the resolution (except for a hair). In fact, all the efforts were related to speed and Nikon from now on will communicate on the fact that the quality of the images is not only business of pixels. One will speak again of sensitivity, of background noise and one will see that these elements, managed well, are better than a large package of pixels in bulk! Some experimental cases turn already, between the hands of photographers more or less held with the secrecy. Several hundreds of Nikon D will be released from here the end of August for the Championships of athletics, but the Nikon innovations will not arrive on the market before the autumn. * the PRICE Since the first publication of this information, you were several hundreds to ask us for the price. One cannot give it for the moment bus Nikon did not communicate on this apparatus and it would be thus premature to draw from the plans on comet. You do not wait however miracles: its tariff will be resolutely professional... but nevertheless lower than that of Eos-1 DIGITAL which is, in fact, its only true competitor although the personality of the two apparatuses is very, very different: - new Nikon is typically an apparatus of report, much more at ease on the ground of the report that on that of the studio; - Gun will be able to continue to propose the resolution of its case pro and the advantages of the full format 24x36. *** AND QUID OF D200? The question is on all the lips: and if there were, in addition to the case pro, D200 for the "large amateur"? It is obvious that it arrives! But its effective marketing will not start before a few months and the career of D100 will have thus to be prolonged until spring 2004, date on which it will leave the scene after a career whose longevity constitutes almost a record! By then, one can envisage new falls of price: D100 is negotiated dèjà very well and, as the problems of delivery of its Canon rival reabsorb, the tariff of D100 melts! Considering the launchings planned for the re-entry, in particular with the competition of the substitute of Minolta Dimâge 7hi and the exit of numerical Pentax, Nikon will have to use all the weapons in its possession to remain competitive. That which the rumour calls "D200" will be able then to be born and to take the relai. The smartest readers will have noticed a small "inconsistency" in our information. For example, we speak about "D2", but not about D2H nor of D2X... However, there still, the rumour is right, but is mistaken simply in initials! Not question for Nikon step by step of replacing the D1H by a D2H and the D1X by a D2X! The confusion which exists between the models is already significant and Nikon will want to differentiate its future apparatuses. The model about which we currently speak as about a "D2" will open the ball but one has to expect to see the future numerical Nikon range restructuring itself around more logical names: - D1, D3 and D5 for the professional range; - D100, D300... and why not D500 for the series amateur! Of course, it is only futurology and all that us enmene until in 2005... but it is allowed to dream, not? With very soon for more precise details! (Foot-note; do not dream: our photograph represents D1!)

21st July 2003	#17
willyfoo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: North Posts: 2,085	We use 4MP for A4 magazine prints... No problems at all. There are that many of you that need prints larger than A4??? __________________ Singapore Wedding Photographer Willy Foo on Twitter & Facebook

11th July 2003	#2
West_ray Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,149	wah !!!!!!!!!!!! read till my eyes

11th July 2003	#3
sadness Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New York, New York! Posts: 468	hi brothers! i tot my ah beng ang moh difficult to understood siah the tranformered french to ang moh even more cannot tahan. wa...really chim till my eyes chimm chimm ah! really got new D2h huh?? wa... like D24 durians like that leh... the name sounds orbit...

12th July 2003	#4
taker Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 297	"D2h" will be 4mp, 8fps. Heard D200 won't come until Spring 2004. And Canon is releasing a digital Rebel Ti version 6mp, less features than 10D. US$1000.

13th July 2003	#5
icebooke Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 412	D2 is 15 frames in burst mode.

13th July 2003	#6
fighthefuture New Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 45	wahhh ... pepper out of curiosity, did u do the translation urself?

13th July 2003	#8
travelshooter Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 63	hey pepper have you checked out robgalbraith.com/ forums/nikon to see when the due date for D2H is? sounds like you are on the right wavelength.

21st July 2003	#11
randomwalk Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sydney Posts: 96	I'm very disappointed! 4mp - wtf were they thinking? Only catering for press photographers.

21st July 2003	#15
Newbiez Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: wonderland Posts: 264

21st July 2003	#18
Astin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Astin Studio Posts: 4,724	If there is a higher MP count, it would be possible to take a shot and then crop it out. We then still be able to print A4 size after cropping. And I also saw some magazines that have a dobule-spread image where the image will spread through 2 A4 pages. Just my thought, I am not in publishing/advertising and not sure the rule of the games.