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    Sore wa Karoshi desu ne.

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    yah Karoshi scary.

    how many hours does an average white collar worker works in a month here?

    blue collar?

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    I think I will be the next

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    NO need to look overseas, take my ex workplace HP Singapore, happens a few times.

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    at least they are highly paid...

    over here is overwork underpaid... lol...
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    Therefore we should look into a few alternate sources of income, instead of just rely on our job to pay us.


    Quote Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt View Post
    at least they are highly paid...

    over here is overwork underpaid... lol...
    Del_CtrlnoAlt is absolutely correct! Overwork, underpaid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennisc View Post
    NO need to look overseas, take my ex workplace HP Singapore, happens a few times.
    are u certain? such a bold claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fumiryu View Post



    Del_CtrlnoAlt is absolutely correct! Overwork, underpaid!
    sounds to me like Guardsmen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dennisc View Post
    NO need to look overseas, take my ex workplace HP Singapore, happens a few times.
    what???! you mean locals here actually died from overwork? Is that verified?

    I can't even get some of my junior colleague to stay till 6.30pm once in a blue moon and that is after getting paid extra and hours to claim off. In singapore I have yet to hear or come across knowing anyone working that hard like those Japanese we hear about and I am not even talking about those that died doing so.

    Kiasu and Kiasi Singaporean dying from overwork in these modern age? There have been times I have known of locals working that long hours but that is not because they are task with many things to do but reason being...slow at what they do. Slackers don't die from overwork. The Japanese stories we hear like this death news or more commonly of those having nervous breakdown due to over work are not only due to company pressure but culturally the pressure the workers put on themselve to complete them due to pride and loyalty to the company they work for..among other reasons for doing so. Most would rank company over family and other interest too. It's a historical culture and something I think we can see is already happening in Korea too.

    There are already some changes taking place with the younger Jap generation but like this guy who is 46 who died. Well he is of the old guard that still believe in the old school values of corporation loyalty. ( I can relate with this guy since I am his age and I too am a workaholic) Well that is what I feel lah. But to think Singaporean would ever come to that stage...I doubt it really. Okay maybe extremely rare. I could be wrong but really.....But then again I think this not too bad a thing right? Not over working till you also give life and blood to the company just to pick up a pay check.

    The only time I have heard stories of people overworking till they get really sick and one had an accident. It's not due to pressure to do more at their job. Problem was they were holding second jobs. Some have money problems to upkeep the family (or lifestyle) or have debt to pay. Makes you think about dying from the BBB bug and the consequence of living large as oppose to dying on the job due to corporate pressure to do more and working as late as you can. heheheh....

    anyway..that is just me lah.

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    I'm not sure that I want to comment on this or not. I have strong feelings about Japanese family obligation and the reason these things happen.

    The worry about being a failure and bringing dishonour to your family, including all your ancestors presents a unique problem. Students who don't pass their exams for entrance into university sometimes kill themselves and many people overwork themselves just to avoid family shame. I'm not sure society agrees now that family shame is so terrible. Things have relaxed a lot but it must be on people's minds for them to do these things.

    When I was last in Japan and staying with a friend, her father came home around 22.00 and he was drunk. He and his colleagues had finished work some time ago, but they were obligated to spend time together "relaxing" and "socialising". Of course, this put burdens on the family life but everyone was supposed to understand because it was good for the company.

    I can't finish this right now. It's too painful, but I hope the best for his family and every family out there whose loved one dies because of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesecake View Post
    are u certain? such a bold claim.
    Quote Originally Posted by sammy888 View Post
    what???! you mean locals here actually died from overwork? Is that verified?
    Think it was in the papers last year.... just google for "singapore hp overwork"

    Apparently this was her last blog entry before she passed away

    http://pinkmayflower.multiply.com/journal/item/140

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooseberry View Post
    Think it was in the papers last year.... just google for "singapore hp overwork"

    Apparently this was her last blog entry before she passed away

    http://pinkmayflower.multiply.com/journal/item/140
    tat is so unfortunate!
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    I'm glad I didn't buy a Toyota car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooseberry View Post
    Think it was in the papers last year.... just google for "singapore hp overwork"

    Apparently this was her last blog entry before she passed away

    http://pinkmayflower.multiply.com/journal/item/140

    Ah I recall that now. I admit it is sad and significant it happened to this individual but I can't say it means that it's prevalent in Singapore. And I hope this is not repeated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy888 View Post
    what???! you mean locals here actually died from overwork?
    Ya, a few cases liao. Two of it, is my friend's friend.
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    If one has to work until death, then something's very wrong with the system or with the person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooseberry View Post
    Think it was in the papers last year.... just google for "singapore hp overwork"

    Apparently this was her last blog entry before she passed away

    http://pinkmayflower.multiply.com/journal/item/140
    Thank you for sharing and this reaffirm my post earlier that we need to look into other sources of income and not just relying on 1 job for our income. A lot of people can't leave their job because their job is their only source of income. No matter how hard their work life is, they have to endure because they need that paycheck just to make ends meet.

    Whenever I walk pass OCBC and saw the advertisement that says, "9 to 5 till the age of 95!", it really scares me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fumiryu View Post
    Whenever I walk pass OCBC and saw the advertisement that says, "9 to 5 till the age of 95!", it really scares me.
    If oil, food and inflation keeps up... work till you drop is very real future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYRN View Post
    If oil, food and inflation keeps up... work till you drop is very real future.
    yup. i agree with this. its hectic and stressful

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