Panasonic Drops 4/3

[Zoobiee]

Was going thru dpreview forums and saw this thread with an accompanying german article.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...hread=28204382

This might mean Olympus going back to Kodak. No more NMOS?

Z

[drakon09]

Originally Posted by Zoobiee This might mean Olympus going back to Kodak. No more NMOS? Z

Let's just say I wouldn't be the saddest person around if that happens.

[Oly5050]

In that case, could that be a good or a bad?

Good in that we prolly will have kodak sensors, but bad in that 4/3 may be getting less supporters in the future?

[Merciless_Knight]

If Panasonic Drops 4/3, So do Leica too.

[Zoobiee]

well maybe we're getting back the CCD which might be not so bad but Olympus would probably have to regress on development for future E-Series camera where sensor's concerned...so maybe the E-5 will really take another couple of years huh?

[wong_se]

i guess i am the odd one here..I like kodak sensor . Still keep my only camera - e1 . Love the colour, and the dynamic range. did not buy any other e body nor consdiering e3, because none of the latest body use kodak sensor.

hopefully, olympus switch back to kodak sensor.

[microcosm]

Yay! Finally someone talked sense into Olympus! So the Chinese guys really got the message drilled through (Shanghai office kena left right centre over E-3 since the release)... good one... hope the new Kodak sensor will really make it into the new flagship model... Kodak has the new sensor now (well, they released that technology end of last year) so it looks like Olympus R&D really are going to go back to CCD and think about working around noise issues...

[olymac]

Ahhh ....... Fujifilm Super CCD .......

[zuikoku]

wanna to know near future Panasonic's movement in digital imaging industry ?

http://www.popphoto.com/popularphoto...-of-leica.html

It's clear that Panasonic is the unique position in conjunction with Leica AG.
As Kaufmann stated (LEICA CEO) : ' Again, I cannot say anything very specific until July, but I can tell you we are seriously investigating the possibility of producing one or more true Leica DSLR cameras, possibly in a format other than Four Thirds.

[blurboiboi]

is'nt CCD noiser than CMOS?.... Nikon recently are able to close the noise gap because they adopted CMOS in their D300 as compared to CCD in their previous models, right?

[nightwolf75]

Originally Posted by blurboiboi is'nt CCD noiser than CMOS?.... Nikon recently are able to close the noise gap because they adopted CMOS in their D300 as compared to CCD in their previous models, right?

inherently, yes. but, if you check out some online literature, when it comes to resolving power, CCD still holds the edge over CMOS. point to note - all those satellites above us taking pics? they use CCD, not CMOS.

[bousozoku]

Originally Posted by wong_se i guess i am the odd one here..I like kodak sensor . Still keep my only camera - e1 . Love the colour, and the dynamic range. did not buy any other e body nor consdiering e3, because none of the latest body use kodak sensor. hopefully, olympus switch back to kodak sensor.

I'm not sure I want Kodak technology again. After the E-1, the E-300, E-500, and E-400 all had Kodak sensors and didn't turn out very good results. However, none had the current TruePic III image processor.

Still, I've read about Kodak achieving point-and-shoot quality photos in a hand phone camera, so maybe they have learned something.

[wong_se]

Originally Posted by bousozoku I'm not sure I want Kodak technology again. After the E-1, the E-300, E-500, and E-400 all had Kodak sensors and didn't turn out very good results. However, none had the current TruePic III image processor.

Depend on what result u are talking about..

if all you matter most is noise..the kodal sensor is not for u. Go CMOS.
I am more concerned about the colour reproduction, dynmanic range rather than noise alone.

Just like some digital medium format like Hasselbald, they use kodal sensor.
They require more accurate colour reproduction than noise. Some of their camera range noise 100 to 400 only.

[bousozoku]

Originally Posted by wong_se Depend on what result u are talking about.. if all you matter most is noise..the kodal sensor is not for u. Go CMOS. I am more concerned about the colour reproduction, dynmanic range rather than noise alone. Just like some digital medium format like Hasselbald, they use kodal sensor. They require more accurate colour reproduction than noise. Some of their camera range noise 100 to 400 only.

I've been waiting for Olympus to do better, as my many comments have shown.

I have no problem pretending to have ISO 400 film since most of the time I was shooting film, that's all I used and I've had to do it for 4 years with the E-1. That means that I walked away from a lot of shots that would have otherwise been salvageable even at ISO 800.

Good dynamic range and colour mean nothing, if you can't see them from the noise, and I'm sure you'll agree with me.

[paisatge]

Originally Posted by wong_se Depend on what result u are talking about.. if all you matter most is noise..the kodal sensor is not for u. Go CMOS. I am more concerned about the colour reproduction, dynmanic range rather than noise alone. Just like some digital medium format like Hasselbald, they use kodal sensor. They require more accurate colour reproduction than noise. Some of their camera range noise 100 to 400 only.

this is true. Leica M8's sensor is made by Kodak and has better details and dynamic range than the Canon 5D FF.

[cater]

If the decision is fixed, those Pana 4/3 user will be real sad to hear this.

[bernards]

Originally Posted by cater If the decision is fixed, those Pana 4/3 user will be real sad to hear this.

Oh gosh.　I am waiting eagerly for the 45mm macro. I hope they release the lens before the goodbye hugs.

Panasonic always had a strange proposition.　The cameras are overpriced and medicore.　The lenses are great but carry a premium. It was difficult to justify until I discovered the M mount. With that said. I own two Panaleica lenses and they are the reason I even bought an E3. Since they choose a small group to make cameras for and then decided to price themselves out for most in that group. I am surprised they even bothered to make a second camera.

[wong_se]

Originally Posted by bousozoku I've been waiting for Olympus to do better, as my many comments have shown. I have no problem pretending to have ISO 400 film since most of the time I was shooting film, that's all I used and I've had to do it for 4 years with the E-1. That means that I walked away from a lot of shots that would have otherwise been salvageable even at ISO 800. Good dynamic range and colour mean nothing, if you can't see them from the noise, and I'm sure you'll agree with me.

since most of the time u are shooting with fil, u should know e1 IS0800 is the closest to film ISO 800 in terms of noise level.


if shot in e1 ISO800 means nothing u can see, then why there was such ASA800 during film days..?

[KangS]

Originally Posted by zuikoku It's clear that Panasonic is the unique position in conjunction with Leica AG. As Kaufmann stated (LEICA CEO) : ' Again, I cannot say anything very specific until July, but I can tell you we are seriously investigating the possibility of producing one or more true Leica DSLR cameras, possibly in a format other than Four Thirds.

If that's the case, Panasonic is likely to be the OEM for the "rumoured-soon-to-be-released Leica R-10.

[uglymale]

Originally Posted by olymac Ahhh ....... Fujifilm Super CCD .......

i was thinking the same thing... lol. Fujifilm's in the 4/3 consortium aye?