Advise needed

Jean · 29th June 2003

I'm thinking of EOS30, but wondering what lenses to get and their prices (new and 2nd hand prices).

Mainly will be for animals (zoo, pets etc) and scenary.

Any advise?

kh_drew · 29th June 2003

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Originally posted by Jean
I'm thinking of EOS30, but wondering what lenses to get and their prices (new and 2nd hand prices).

Mainly will be for animals (zoo, pets etc) and scenary.

Any advise?

thinking of getting Canon stuff myself too. The EOS30 should cost just over $700 new. THe EOS33 is $50 less. If you're going to shoot animals in the zoo, you can try the 70-200 lens. Ideally try to get the more expensive f/2.8 rather than f/4 if you want to use a teleconverter but the advantage of the f/4 version is price and weight, which is a welcome relief if you travel with the lens.

I'm thinking of getting the f/4 version as well as the 17-40 f/4. Maybe get prime lens like the 20mm too since I tend to go wide when shooting landscapes.

andrew

kh_drew · 29th June 2003

try this thread:

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...threadid=38306

jeff49er · 29th June 2003

Since u wan advice, I advise u take eos 33 with 29-135 usm IS.

33 wif date could cost less than $695 now. 28-135 lens cost about $960 at CP.

Good buy must buy

Belle&Sebastain · 30th June 2003

the 28-135 is usm cost $820 at CP

tert · 30th June 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Jean
I'm thinking of EOS30, but wondering what lenses to get and their prices (new and 2nd hand prices).

Mainly will be for animals (zoo, pets etc) and scenary.

Any advise?

What's your budget?

SniperD · 30th June 2003

Just a famous quote:

BUY! BUY! BUY!

An EOS 30 coupled with a 28-105 and a 70-300 USM will be ideal for your requirement, unless you wanna go for the whites? Heh heh heh

agape01 · 30th June 2003

IMHO, if I were in your position and armed with the knowledge of equipment and type of photography that I want to work on, I would get a EOS 30 and look for a 28-200 USM lens.

The reason? It is the best overall performer in terms of focal length. 200mm at f/5.6 should be able to get you some decent shots at the zoo, while 28mm at f/3.5 would get you wide enough to do landscape shots.

If not, you could get a cheaper 28-90mm and get a zoom lens 75-300mm USM. That could be the other way to go.

Jean · 4th July 2003

Thank you all for the replies...

ok, I've think I will get the body and 28-105 lens first. Will get another 70-300 lens later on (since I'm not planning any trips to the zoo at the moment :P)

But some stuff I'm not sure abt.... (sorry totally new at all these)

1) USM = what's the use for it?
2) IS = when do we need such a function? While zooming? So IS is more relevant for 70-300 compared to 28-135?
3) focal length? The wider the range the better??

also, does CP/AP takes a long time to reply on equote.... I've been waiting abt a week for the reply.

tert · 4th July 2003

1) Ultra Sonic Motor: It's one of Canon's genre of focusing motor that gives the lens the ability to focus faster... Canon has other types of focusing motor like the DC motor etc... but slower

2) Image Stabiliser: To aid in hand holding the camera in low light. Typically, the rule of thumb for the selection of shutter speed would be the reciprocal of the focal length; say if you extend a zoom lens to 50mm, the lowest shutter speed you OUGHT to have is 1/60s. Any less, you would run the risk of getting blur images or what they call "camera shake". The IS function allows you to go one to two stop below the "rule". Hence, you can use a speed say 1/15s (two stops less)

3) Focal length: The wider the range....... the wider?

Not necessary better, just .... wider. Traditionally, prime lens (fixed focal) give generally better images than zoom ones. But more recent zoom lens (exclusively almost refering to Canon's L lens) produce very good results that matched or even surpass the primes. But in general, you can't expect to have a lens to cover all focal length without giving something up. Try reading up on the reviews of the lens you're interested in; user reviews/comments, test charts and results and make your decision based on your (1) Budget, (2) Need & Requirement... Hmm, can't think of anything else.

Btw, the eos 30 is a great camera... It's the only thing i bought new.

Hope the above helps.

tert · 4th July 2003

Sorry... "Cheong Hei".

Just to make a suggestion: IMHO, getting a general zoom like the 28-105mm is convenient for the "all purpose" usage like family gathering, travelling etc, as a stuck on lens. You would probably not want to commit into the 75-300 range without first having the general lens;

...or you'd have to shoot noses at family outings and gatherings.

The 28-105mm mk II is good; i owned i before. The mk I is its predecessor; but it seems to scumble to fogging and other probably rather easily. Prob due to the age of the lens.

Cheers.
tert

kh_drew · 4th July 2003

That's probably quite a good buy. The 28-105 lens comes highly recommended for general photography. Whilst it is convenient to use a zoom, bear in mind that it is probably better to visualise the image you want before even raising the camera to your eye. A very good way to really learn about photography is to go to the subject you are interested in with just a sketch book and pencil, not a camera. Do a lot of sketches of stuff you want to photography. Then go and take photographs and see if you can get the image like those that you've sketched. Compare the photos with sketches and see how different they are. This way you'll gradually learn to "sketch" with your camera. Try it, it's fun! And one more thing, start with slides rather than negatives.

regards
andrew

munfai · 5th July 2003

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Originally posted by kh_drew
And one more thing, start with slides rather than negatives.

good advise, but shooting slides can sometimes be more costly!!!

Jer76 · 5th July 2003

get the 28-105mm it's great!! as for the equote tink u call them better i oso waited so long for my equote in the end called them n got a good price

tert · 5th July 2003

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Originally posted by Jer76
get the 28-105mm it's great!! as for the equote tink u call them better i oso waited so long for my equote in the end called them n got a good price

Had seen a Canon 28-105mm mk II going used but mint at $350, TCW yesterday...

Jer76 · 5th July 2003

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Originally posted by tert
Had seen a Canon 28-105mm mk II going used but mint at $350, TCW yesterday...

Yupz u can trust them.. i got mine from them oso.. so far no problem its cond is like new ar

Jean · 5th July 2003

okie thanks.... will see if I have time to go downt his weekend

29th June 2003	#1
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 245	Advise needed I'm thinking of EOS30, but wondering what lenses to get and their prices (new and 2nd hand prices). Mainly will be for animals (zoo, pets etc) and scenary. Any advise?

29th June 2003	#4
jeff49er Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Punggol Park Posts: 2,020	Adose meeded Since u wan advice, I advise u take eos 33 with 29-135 usm IS. 33 wif date could cost less than $695 now. 28-135 lens cost about $960 at CP. Good buy must buy __________________ EOS 40D;50mm f1.4 ; Lancer EX Sports 2.0 Fan of Man Utd since 1977

30th June 2003	#7
SniperD Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Behind the viewfinder... Posts: 5,954	Just a famous quote: BUY! BUY! BUY! An EOS 30 coupled with a 28-105 and a 70-300 USM will be ideal for your requirement, unless you wanna go for the whites? Heh heh heh __________________ EYE-DEAS

4th July 2003	#9
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 245	Thanks for the replies Thank you all for the replies... ok, I've think I will get the body and 28-105 lens first. Will get another 70-300 lens later on (since I'm not planning any trips to the zoo at the moment :P) But some stuff I'm not sure abt.... (sorry totally new at all these) 1) USM = what's the use for it? 2) IS = when do we need such a function? While zooming? So IS is more relevant for 70-300 compared to 28-135? 3) focal length? The wider the range the better?? also, does CP/AP takes a long time to reply on equote.... I've been waiting abt a week for the reply.

4th July 2003	#10
tert Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 373	Re: Thanks for the replies 1) Ultra Sonic Motor: It's one of Canon's genre of focusing motor that gives the lens the ability to focus faster... Canon has other types of focusing motor like the DC motor etc... but slower 2) Image Stabiliser: To aid in hand holding the camera in low light. Typically, the rule of thumb for the selection of shutter speed would be the reciprocal of the focal length; say if you extend a zoom lens to 50mm, the lowest shutter speed you OUGHT to have is 1/60s. Any less, you would run the risk of getting blur images or what they call "camera shake". The IS function allows you to go one to two stop below the "rule". Hence, you can use a speed say 1/15s (two stops less) 3) Focal length: The wider the range....... the wider? Not necessary better, just .... wider. Traditionally, prime lens (fixed focal) give generally better images than zoom ones. But more recent zoom lens (exclusively almost refering to Canon's L lens) produce very good results that matched or even surpass the primes. But in general, you can't expect to have a lens to cover all focal length without giving something up. Try reading up on the reviews of the lens you're interested in; user reviews/comments, test charts and results and make your decision based on your (1) Budget, (2) Need & Requirement... Hmm, can't think of anything else. Btw, the eos 30 is a great camera... It's the only thing i bought new. Hope the above helps.

29th June 2003	#3
kh_drew Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 417	try this thread: http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...threadid=38306

30th June 2003	#5
Belle&Sebastain Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: here Posts: 3,752	the 28-135 is usm cost $820 at CP

30th June 2003	#8
agape01 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Somewhere Out There Posts: 2,269	IMHO, if I were in your position and armed with the knowledge of equipment and type of photography that I want to work on, I would get a EOS 30 and look for a 28-200 USM lens. The reason? It is the best overall performer in terms of focal length. 200mm at f/5.6 should be able to get you some decent shots at the zoo, while 28mm at f/3.5 would get you wide enough to do landscape shots. If not, you could get a cheaper 28-90mm and get a zoom lens 75-300mm USM. That could be the other way to go.

5th July 2003	#14
Jer76 Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: West Posts: 1,109	get the 28-105mm it's great!! as for the equote tink u call them better i oso waited so long for my equote in the end called them n got a good price