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Old 31st May 2008   #1
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Default Problem with IS / SSWF

I think I am going to have to bring my E510 to the Service Center. The SSWF appears to be malfunctioning. It is initially intermittent, but now is more frequent. When I switch it on, my camera will hang for a 5-10 seconds. At then, the SSWF will come on and I feel the vibration, before I can start shooting. This is wierd cos I thought SSWF only comes on when I switch off. At first I though battery was weak cos it was in there for some time although it was by no means low. So I charged it up and it still happened.
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Old 31st May 2008   #2
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Ah... bro... different from my E-510...

SSWF for the sensor operates at the start... so it shakes off the dust before you start shooting.

Image Stabilisation is at the end... i don't know why it does that... but i always off the is before i turn off my camera... its usually off anyway... unless i'm shooting in really low light condition without flash...

the hanging portion is a weird... did anything happen during your updating of software in ur camera or something? 5-10 sec is alot...
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not a good sign... any other symptoms?
Something else may be happening at startup that prevented SSWF from kicking in, so may not be its fault - but for us to speculate what it is won't be fruitful to you.
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Default Re: Problem with SSWF

few things to do before send in:
- disconnect everything, including the lens
- turn off IS
- reset to factory default
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Default Re: Problem with SSWF

Originally Posted by splim View Post
few things to do before send in:
- disconnect everything, including the lens
- turn off IS
- reset to factory default
agree with splim. try that 1st. it sounds like your E510 IS may be the cause instead of the SSWF.
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Default Re: Problem with SSWF

Originally Posted by Oly5050 View Post
When I switch it on, my camera will hang for a 5-10 seconds. At then, the SSWF will come on and I feel the vibration, before I can start shooting. This is wierd cos I thought SSWF only comes on when I switch off.
Just to clarify some things, SSWF on FourThirds cameras is supposed to happen when you turn ON the camera (it's only on some lesser brands where the dust cleaning is ineffective like Sony where it takes place only when you turn off the camera AFTER you've taken pictures with dust on the sensor).

If you're feeling vibration (which comes from the IS mechanism, the SSWF CAN'T be felt or heard) at power up that might be an IS problem rather than an SSWF problem.

I can't think any user setting which would delay a power up, so in any case it should go back for a checkup.
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Default Re: Problem with SSWF

also,when you hear your camera shake,its the IS powering down,it's been said before
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also,when you hear your camera shake,its the IS powering down,it's been said before
Yes, but what is strange is that the IS is not shaking at all if you first switch it off using the IS button and then switch the camera off. I am also very confused about why the camera must shake if it is switched off with IS still on.

Anyway, one should not feel or hear any shake at all during switch on.
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Default Re: Problem with SSWF

Originally Posted by Oly5050 View Post
I think I am going to have to bring my E510 to the Service Center. The SSWF appears to be malfunctioning. It is initially intermittent, but now is more frequent. When I switch it on, my camera will hang for a 5-10 seconds. At then, the SSWF will come on and I feel the vibration, before I can start shooting. This is wierd cos I thought SSWF only comes on when I switch off. At first I though battery was weak cos it was in there for some time although it was by no means low. So I charged it up and it still happened.
I think your camera hangs at startup because of your memory card. Try reformatting it with your camera.
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Originally Posted by OlyFlyer View Post
Yes, but what is strange is that the IS is not shaking at all if you first switch it off using the IS button and then switch the camera off. I am also very confused about why the camera must shake if it is switched off with IS still on.

Anyway, one should not feel or hear any shake at all during switch on.
what i understand is that,when you turn off IS first than the camera,the IS is already powered down,hence when you turn off the camera with IS off before hand,there is no vibration/sound.I have no idea why,but that's how it works,you have to ask Olmypus.take a picture with IS on and about 1 sec exposure,a test shot,you can hear the IS working,a high pitch whining sound,only time when there is sound or vibration would be IS working at slow shutter speed producing a whining sound.IS powering down after turning the camera on.Other than that better bring back to OSC already
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Originally Posted by OlyFlyer View Post
Yes, but what is strange is that the IS is not shaking at all if you first switch it off using the IS button and then switch the camera off. I am also very confused about why the camera must shake if it is switched off with IS still on.

Anyway, one should not feel or hear any shake at all during switch on.
Yes...it is like that in an intermittent manner. The IS vibrates after power on when it typically only vibrates on power off. So when it does not work right the sequence goes like this :

Switch on
SSWF light comes on
Screen comes on
Pause
Camera hangs
IS vibration

Camera ready
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Confirm need to see doctor already...
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Default Re: Problem with SSWF

Originally Posted by Oly5050 View Post
Yes...it is like that in an intermittent manner. The IS vibrates after power on when it typically only vibrates on power off. So when it does not work right the sequence goes like this :

Switch on
SSWF light comes on
Screen comes on
Pause
Camera hangs
IS vibration

Camera ready
I thot is shd be ;

Switch On
SSWF light comes on
Screen comes on
Turn off
IS Vibration

Better send in b4 warranty expiry.
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Default Re: Problem with SSWF

Originally Posted by spidey89 View Post
what i understand is that,when you turn off IS first than the camera,the IS is already powered down,hence when you turn off the camera with IS off before hand,there is no vibration/sound.I have no idea why,but that's how it works,you have to ask Olmypus.take a picture with IS on and about 1 sec exposure,a test shot,you can hear the IS working,a high pitch whining sound,only time when there is sound or vibration would be IS working at slow shutter speed producing a whining sound.
I know all that, but IMO if there is a reason for the IS sound if you power down the camera with IS on, then there should be the same sound when you switch the IS off using the IS button as well.

Originally Posted by spidey89 View Post
IS powering down after turning the camera on.
No, there is no power down of IS unless you press the IS button and power it down that way. The rattling sound is not there, and should not be there at power on of the camera.

Originally Posted by spidey89 View Post
Other than that better bring back to OSC already
Nothing wrong with my camera.
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Default Re: Problem with SSWF

Originally Posted by Oly5050 View Post
Yes...it is like that in an intermittent manner. The IS vibrates after power on when it typically only vibrates on power off. So when it does not work right the sequence goes like this :

Switch on
SSWF light comes on
Screen comes on
Pause
Camera hangs
IS vibration

Camera ready
I suggest you check with different lenses and if you have the same problem, check even without a lens. If you can't associate to a specific lens send the camera in for service. If you can associate with a specific lens, send both the camera and the lens in for service together. The sequence you describe is not normal and should be taken care of by a technician at Oly service.
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have you tried changing the memory card?
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alright,right now,i'm just plain confused
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I must say I got really good and quick service at the Olympus Service Center. The camera will be sent in for an evaluation and will take about 1 week.
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actually i alwiz got a question on IS. how does it really work? I know when you switch to live view mode and if u hold on to IS button, you will hear the IS motor sound, do we really have to hold on to the IS button when need IS? is it oli applicable to live view mode?
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actually i alwiz got a question on IS. how does it really work? I know when you switch to live view mode and if u hold on to IS button, you will hear the IS motor sound, do we really have to hold on to the IS button when need IS? is it oli applicable to live view mode?
I dun think so. I think so long as IS is on - either 1 or 2, it will work whether in LV or normal viewfinder.
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