Waterfall in Kuranda, Cairns

charmingorion · 8th May 2008

Dear all,

This pic was taken in Cairns over April.
I took this shot at F11, ISO 200 at 1/256s with exposure -0.3s, using Aperture priority.

Could you kindly give me your feekback on the following pls?
Thank you!

1. Is this picture considered underexposed?
2. Is the tree trunk as a foreground considered a distraction or it leads your eyes to the water fall?
3. Why is it that my pic look blurs when downloaded in this Clubsnap and when i view it in PS, it is sharp? How did u guys get the sharp image?
4. What else could you comment on this pic other than the above mentioned. pls?

Thank you all!

chikubang · 8th May 2008

The tree trunk on the left is abit distracting.

AlteredVision · 8th May 2008

For sharpness, when you resize, you can try using bicubic sharper, instead of bicubic. Bicubic sharper doesn't really work well for faces, but should work fine for landscape. Or unsharp mask, for this photo at this size, maybe can try setting amount 50%, radius 0.5, threshold 3, see how it looks and adjust as necessary.

charmingorion · 8th May 2008

Originally Posted by AlteredVision

For sharpness, when you resize, you can try using bicubic sharper, instead of bicubic. Bicubic sharper doesn't really work well for faces, but should work fine for landscape. Or unsharp mask, for this photo at this size, maybe can try setting amount 50%, radius 0.5, threshold 3, see how it looks and adjust as necessary.

Hi, I've tried the unsharpen mask and it looked great on PS but then when i download that on this website, the pic looked compressed quite badly....

Sigh...I need technical advice as well on my photo...Maybe it is so badly posted that is why no one make any effort to comment...sigh....

AlteredVision · 8th May 2008

How does it look after saving it on your comp, and before uploading? IF it looks badly compressed already, then check your settings when you save.

calebk · 9th May 2008

Exposure is actually pretty good. I won't say it's underexposed at all.

However, I do find the tree trunks, especially the one on the left, distractions. Makes me feel as though they're obstructing my view and I want to get around to get a full, unobstructed view of the waterfall.

On my display, your image is pretty sharp though...not what I would consider soft. However, with landscape you can afford that extra bit of sharpness to bring out the rock/foliage detail, but then again, how well your image takes to post-camera sharpening is also a factor that will affect the final product; some images can take more post-camera sharpening than others.

Don't know if your EXIF is accurate though...don't ever recall a camera doing 1/256s shutter speed; it's usually 1/250s.

charmingorion · 9th May 2008

Originally Posted by calebk

Exposure is actually pretty good. I won't say it's underexposed at all.

However, I do find the tree trunks, especially the one on the left, distractions. Makes me feel as though they're obstructing my view and I want to get around to get a full, unobstructed view of the waterfall.

On my display, your image is pretty sharp though...not what I would consider soft. However, with landscape you can afford that extra bit of sharpness to bring out the rock/foliage detail, but then again, how well your image takes to post-camera sharpening is also a factor that will affect the final product; some images can take more post-camera sharpening than others.

Don't know if your EXIF is accurate though...don't ever recall a camera doing 1/256s shutter speed; it's usually 1/250s.

Hi,
Thanks for affirming the exposure level of my pic.
May i ask, as u know that there are some pics that have tree trunks in the foreground and it added interest to the background, how can one tell if the foreground is a distraction or an interest that will lead the eyes to the background?

I remembered seeing one shot that Zoosh took with lots of bush in the foreground, but it's focus is led to the background. Errm...i'm not sure if i'm allowed to bring his pic/link in for discussion to clear the doubt "When is the foreground a distraction or an attraction?"

Not to mention, some foreground items are underexposed and it appeared like one dark item at the bottom of the pic, but it seems like most people didn't matter abt that...

Can you advice me on that pls?

Thanks!

charmingorion · 9th May 2008

Could you kindly advise how i can make this pic a wow, pls? Vignetting? a better angle of shooting...or color series?....

Thanks.

Btw, could i get some advice on the questions i raised earlier on when is forground considered a distraction and not an attention that leads ur eyes to the background? What is the rule?

Thanks!

ssping83 · 9th May 2008

if the branches and trunks are included as "foreground interest".. i think they are not very interesting.. and they look haphazard (like cut up here and there)..

if they are included for "framing".. then they are incomplete and do not serve as a frame..

i dun think the foreground is underexposed.. with the sun above you it's natural for the trees to be cast in shadow (by its own leaves?!).. if everything was bright i think it might look strange..

my 2 cents..

8th May 2008	#1
charmingorion Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 281	Waterfall in Kuranda, Cairns Dear all, This pic was taken in Cairns over April. I took this shot at F11, ISO 200 at 1/256s with exposure -0.3s, using Aperture priority. Could you kindly give me your feekback on the following pls? Thank you! 1. Is this picture considered underexposed? 2. Is the tree trunk as a foreground considered a distraction or it leads your eyes to the water fall? 3. Why is it that my pic look blurs when downloaded in this Clubsnap and when i view it in PS, it is sharp? How did u guys get the sharp image? 4. What else could you comment on this pic other than the above mentioned. pls? Thank you all! __________________ Canon, cAnon, caNon, canOn, canoN....Simply Loving IT!!

8th May 2008	#2
chikubang Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sembawang Posts: 258	Re: Waterfall in Kuranda, Cairns The tree trunk on the left is abit distracting.

8th May 2008	#3
AlteredVision Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 303	Re: Waterfall in Kuranda, Cairns For sharpness, when you resize, you can try using bicubic sharper, instead of bicubic. Bicubic sharper doesn't really work well for faces, but should work fine for landscape. Or unsharp mask, for this photo at this size, maybe can try setting amount 50%, radius 0.5, threshold 3, see how it looks and adjust as necessary. __________________ alteredVision.net Product Photography \| Photo Editing & Retouching \| Photoshop Lessons

8th May 2008	#5
AlteredVision Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 303	Re: Waterfall in Kuranda, Cairns How does it look after saving it on your comp, and before uploading? IF it looks badly compressed already, then check your settings when you save. __________________ alteredVision.net Product Photography \| Photo Editing & Retouching \| Photoshop Lessons

9th May 2008	#6
calebk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Clementi Posts: 10,476	Re: Waterfall in Kuranda, Cairns Exposure is actually pretty good. I won't say it's underexposed at all. However, I do find the tree trunks, especially the one on the left, distractions. Makes me feel as though they're obstructing my view and I want to get around to get a full, unobstructed view of the waterfall. On my display, your image is pretty sharp though...not what I would consider soft. However, with landscape you can afford that extra bit of sharpness to bring out the rock/foliage detail, but then again, how well your image takes to post-camera sharpening is also a factor that will affect the final product; some images can take more post-camera sharpening than others. Don't know if your EXIF is accurate though...don't ever recall a camera doing 1/256s shutter speed; it's usually 1/250s. __________________ deviantART \| fotologue

9th May 2008	#8
charmingorion Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 281	Re: Waterfall in Kuranda, Cairns Could you kindly advise how i can make this pic a wow, pls? Vignetting? a better angle of shooting...or color series?.... Thanks. Btw, could i get some advice on the questions i raised earlier on when is forground considered a distraction and not an attention that leads ur eyes to the background? What is the rule? Thanks! __________________ Canon, cAnon, caNon, canOn, canoN....Simply Loving IT!!

9th May 2008	#9
ssping83 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bishan Posts: 968	Re: Waterfall in Kuranda, Cairns if the branches and trunks are included as "foreground interest".. i think they are not very interesting.. and they look haphazard (like cut up here and there).. if they are included for "framing".. then they are incomplete and do not serve as a frame.. i dun think the foreground is underexposed.. with the sun above you it's natural for the trees to be cast in shadow (by its own leaves?!).. if everything was bright i think it might look strange.. my 2 cents..