Stack-o-Party!!!!....stacking +4,+4,+2

sulhan · 22nd June 2003

Hi All,

Here are some photos taken this morning with 3 close up filters. Was just trying out to see if there is any or really bad distortion......well it turned out to be quite alright.....

Do feel free to comments....critique.....reccomend ...

have fun!!!!

regards,
Sulhan

waisj · 22nd June 2003

wow sulhan nice...

all with your G2?

sulhan · 22nd June 2003

Hi Wai....

I was just trying out with the G2......Mega was there and gave some tips...so juz used the pointers he gave and look like the stack of close ups...is not too bad....but must use flash....else the sun will cause some sort of chromatic aberration..........\

Regards,
Sulhan

thomaschan · 23rd June 2003

sulhan great pics!!

i got a g3 with some closeup filters..

may i ask ur setup?

did u use a macro flash? quite expensive rite?

im assuming tripod also used lah?

also, did u use any kind of telephoto to get that close?

everytime i get close the insect fly away

Damien · 24th June 2003

ya, i agree with thomaschan, stacking +4+4+2 => focusing distance reduces to less than 10cm (?), how you manage to not scare away the insects huh?? Maybe macroking or sulhan can give some tips to us macro shooters.

djchris · 24th June 2003

My A40 setup also consist of +4+4+2 closeup filters..

Only con at the moment, is that the quality of the image is degraded with more filter used (the pros could tell but I can't), and that the depth of field gets rather shallow that you sometimes can't get the depth of field you want.

sulhan · 24th June 2003

Okay guys.....

Me no expert here...just plain lucky i guess.....well here are some of my thoughts.....:
- Depth of Field : Yes the depth of field is very critical in this case.....first you need to experiment at home to see the DOF of your rig(Setup) - Use a ruler placed on the kitchen table...and see how well the DOF can go to. Then go to the location to try it out. As i have only a limited DOF....to shoot...so need to be very particular on the type of insect SIZE that you want to take. Do you know that grasshoppers may come in sizes as small as 5mm till as large as 6cm. Hence choosing the right sized insect can help you get the best DOF... If shallow...then take smaller insect.
The cycad Blue butterfly comes in small till large sizes......so what say you try out taking a really small one ......which will sit nicely in your DOF window.

- Selective insect(behavioral): Some insect are easily agitated...while some are not. STEALTH is a key word....try to sneak into their position. Some insect are soo friendly after seeing you around for awhile that they get comfortable.....I had a butterfly on my right wrist last saturday and the only htink i could do is call Mega to look at it...I CAN"T TAKE ITS PHOTO!!!!....
Hoverflys will HOVER...so it is easy to take them in flight.....
Butterflies.......try taking htem when they have their sucking tubes extended for awhile sucking nectar.....then they will get "HIGH" for a moment and thats where you close in.

- SPiders .....they tend to return to thier same spot(web) if scared....just get into positon to focus on cnter of web...stai SUPER still...and they will quicly run back....into the web...

- Avoid fogging up your viewfinder....and wipe your sweat that trickles on your forehead.....they may drip and hit the leave beneath and scare the insect away!!!!!!

- The last tip...PATIENCE......

Regards,
Sulhan

25th June 2003

Like the first image. nice reflaction.

22nd June 2003	#1
sulhan Advertiser Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 4,051	Stack-o-Party!!!!....stacking +4,+4,+2 Hi All, Here are some photos taken this morning with 3 close up filters. Was just trying out to see if there is any or really bad distortion......well it turned out to be quite alright..... Do feel free to comments....critique.....reccomend ... have fun!!!! regards, Sulhan Last edited by sulhan; 22nd June 2003 at 02:25 PM.

22nd June 2003	#3
sulhan Advertiser Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 4,051	yah lor....G2.... Hi Wai.... I was just trying out with the G2......Mega was there and gave some tips...so juz used the pointers he gave and look like the stack of close ups...is not too bad....but must use flash....else the sun will cause some sort of chromatic aberration..........\ Regards, Sulhan

24th June 2003	#7
sulhan Advertiser Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 4,051	Okay...here are some tips..... Okay guys..... Me no expert here...just plain lucky i guess.....well here are some of my thoughts.....: - Depth of Field : Yes the depth of field is very critical in this case.....first you need to experiment at home to see the DOF of your rig(Setup) - Use a ruler placed on the kitchen table...and see how well the DOF can go to. Then go to the location to try it out. As i have only a limited DOF....to shoot...so need to be very particular on the type of insect SIZE that you want to take. Do you know that grasshoppers may come in sizes as small as 5mm till as large as 6cm. Hence choosing the right sized insect can help you get the best DOF... If shallow...then take smaller insect. The cycad Blue butterfly comes in small till large sizes......so what say you try out taking a really small one ......which will sit nicely in your DOF window. - Selective insect(behavioral): Some insect are easily agitated...while some are not. STEALTH is a key word....try to sneak into their position. Some insect are soo friendly after seeing you around for awhile that they get comfortable.....I had a butterfly on my right wrist last saturday and the only htink i could do is call Mega to look at it...I CAN"T TAKE ITS PHOTO!!!!.... Hoverflys will HOVER...so it is easy to take them in flight..... Butterflies.......try taking htem when they have their sucking tubes extended for awhile sucking nectar.....then they will get "HIGH" for a moment and thats where you close in. - SPiders .....they tend to return to thier same spot(web) if scared....just get into positon to focus on cnter of web...stai SUPER still...and they will quicly run back....into the web... - Avoid fogging up your viewfinder....and wipe your sweat that trickles on your forehead.....they may drip and hit the leave beneath and scare the insect away!!!!!! - The last tip...PATIENCE...... Regards, Sulhan Last edited by sulhan; 24th June 2003 at 06:16 PM.

22nd June 2003	#2
waisj Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: OZilla Posts: 1,965	wow sulhan nice... all with your G2?

23rd June 2003	#4
thomaschan Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 552	sulhan great pics!! i got a g3 with some closeup filters.. may i ask ur setup? did u use a macro flash? quite expensive rite? im assuming tripod also used lah? also, did u use any kind of telephoto to get that close? everytime i get close the insect fly away

24th June 2003	#5
Damien Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sengkang Posts: 544	ya, i agree with thomaschan, stacking +4+4+2 => focusing distance reduces to less than 10cm (?), how you manage to not scare away the insects huh?? Maybe macroking or sulhan can give some tips to us macro shooters.

24th June 2003	#6
djchris Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 876	My A40 setup also consist of +4+4+2 closeup filters.. Only con at the moment, is that the quality of the image is degraded with more filter used (the pros could tell but I can't), and that the depth of field gets rather shallow that you sometimes can't get the depth of field you want.

25th June 2003	#8
Digimage Guests Posts: n/a	Like the first image. nice reflaction.