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Old 16th April 2008   #1
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Default Scarlet is announced

From the people who brought us Red One... Red Digital Cinema has officially announced their "pocket sized" 3K resolution camera that shoots RAW video at up to 120FPS... ... 1yr to launch, so there's time to start saving... under US$3000 for the body...

http://www.red.com/nab/scarlet
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Old 16th April 2008   #2
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Swee lah, but then must buy lens, must buy LCD, must buy handle, easily add to the cost 4 fold leh.
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Old 16th April 2008   #3
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No lah, lens built in and LCD also supposed to be included in the package. So only have to buy the lens hood/matte box, handle, extra battery and Red CF cards. Shouldn't be more than thrice the base price

Oh and not forgetting, if you dun have FCP, another S$2.4k...
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Old 17th April 2008   #4
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Wow, you're right!

BTW, what is that FCP thingy you were saying?
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Old 17th April 2008   #5
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Apple's Final Cut Pro, currently its the only non-linear editing software that will work natively with Redcode.

And if you dun have an Apple computer...yup...four times
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Old 18th April 2008   #6
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Then you'll also start to realise that not many companies in Singapore projects 2k or 4k materials......and that you need to spend like UK50,000 pounds to buy a DCI compliant authoring system so that you can feed materials into the cinema servers.

End up you spend so much money on a RED or Scarlet with a high end post production system and use for down-convert to normal SD or HD deliveries for jobs like corporates, events & weddings where clients will forever tell you that they have no budget.....

And worse is the papers have been raving about a boost in the media industry...
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Then you'll also start to realise that not many companies in Singapore projects 2k or 4k materials......and that you need to spend like UK50,000 pounds to buy a DCI compliant authoring system so that you can feed materials into the cinema servers.

End up you spend so much money on a RED or Scarlet with a high end post production system and use for down-convert to normal SD or HD deliveries for jobs like corporates, events & weddings where clients will forever tell you that they have no budget.....

And worse is the papers have been raving about a boost in the media industry...
hahaha bro correct, i support what you say!!
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omg the higher end cams can work with Canon & Nikon lens directly!! WT Hell!!! Champion.. but why oh why the Scarlet can only do B4 mount.. och.. otherwise it is a super machine in the dark.. 2/3"!!
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Its outt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 16th November 2008   #10
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How the hell they obtained that much technology for sensors, interface, and even lens? With capability of DSLR, this is going to threaten mainstream camera makers, which ultimately benefits consumers.
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Old 16th November 2008   #11
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actually Canon and Sony alr has the capability to give us high end video cams with EF/Nikon/Sony Lens compatibility. I guess they have to protect their products otherwise from technology viewpoint, they can already do it. Hence the EOS5D Mkii. Just hope that RED's development will force the big guys to do something. In fact the Sony Z7 mini B4 mount is supposed to have an adapter that will allow it to work with Sony DSLR lenses
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Old 16th November 2008   #12
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In fact the Sony Z7 mini B4 mount is supposed to have an adapter that will allow it to work with Sony DSLR lenses
What would be the cropping factor for a Sony DSLR lens mounted on the Z7 with this adapter? Presumably it will be pretty large, like 8X or 9X?
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Old 17th November 2008   #13
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The RED concept is top notch but not sure whether they can deliver the product
CAD drawing and brochure looks good though
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The RED concept is top notch but not sure whether they can deliver the product
CAD drawing and brochure looks good though
They sure can deliver. But the spec is subject to change. And the price. And the delivery date. Hmmm. Just have faith!
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How the hell they obtained that much technology for sensors, interface, and even lens? With capability of DSLR, this is going to threaten mainstream camera makers, which ultimately benefits consumers.
behind these toys is a billionaire who happens to love photography and video.
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Old 20th November 2008   #16
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btw the RED ONE body is made in Singapore... somewhere in the North!
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Old 20th November 2008   #17
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Is it available in Singapore yet ?

My views would be to rent it instead of buying. Try before buy.
You'll never know the workflow yet til you start and tested out and finish a product.
It's a highly well marketed product, but not much hardwares and softwares support for this RED format yet.

To me, the overated RED wants to hit the prosumer-low budget genre and appears as "Why need CineAlta, 35mm, 65mm Arri, Panavision etc etc when we have RED for a fraction of the price that shoots 2k/4k resolution? "

Well, someone has to rent it and have it tested out during production and post production whether it's a pain, or breeze.

Dixon, have you by chance worked with RED format on post production? maybe can share with us?
Sorry to be quite skeptical on this product.
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be as skeptical as you want... I'm running with it =)
Read their user base forum, everyone in are established professionals in the industry, http://reduser.net/forum/index.php
If you acutally can read thru half the forum - you can be almost as good as a film student in Singapore... =)
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Is it available in Singapore yet ?

My views would be to rent it instead of buying. Try before buy.
You'll never know the workflow yet til you start and tested out and finish a product.
It's a highly well marketed product, but not much hardwares and softwares support for this RED format yet.

To me, the overated RED wants to hit the prosumer-low budget genre and appears as "Why need CineAlta, 35mm, 65mm Arri, Panavision etc etc when we have RED for a fraction of the price that shoots 2k/4k resolution? "

Well, someone has to rent it and have it tested out during production and post production whether it's a pain, or breeze.

Dixon, have you by chance worked with RED format on post production? maybe can share with us?
Sorry to be quite skeptical on this product.
Scarlet will only be available next year. The Red has already been used in Singapore for some productions. Most recently, Pulau Hantu was the first tele-movie in Singapore shot on the Red. You can catch additional screenings at sinema.sg

Having had the pleasure of being one of the first to handle the camera locally, I'd still stick with my Ex-1. The workflow not something a prosumer setup can handle easily but I'm sure the next version of Final Cut and Premier Pro will make it easier to work with the files.
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oooooh Mr eel...show us some behind the scenes photo with the RED ONE pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..............
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