anyways, what is gwc?
dp - given the standards of many of the model photoshoots here, with a few exceptions here and then, i'm talking about averages, you'd deign to call it 'intellectual'?
Whether a person is experienced or skilled is beside the point. The point is that the works have value. The only question is how much value.
So can I say that since the model is inexperienced and she comes to a photography house to pay to do a portfolio, the photography house can call her to model for free by the way at the same time too?
i would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone of rule no. 1
1. Be Nice and Be Civilised - abusing, name-calling, personal attacks on members and/or generally trying to stir up trouble will not be tolerated. Be kind to newbies as they may not know the general flow of the forums. Repeatedly violation of this rule will result in banishment.
i don't like to serve infractions, don't make me do it
One thing I like to ask the shooters to think a bit out of the box.
If you think XMMs are too expensive, go and shoot neighourhood aunties just like me.
Aunties don't expect payment. Some more they make pork rib soup for me.
They are not fussy and they don't demand soft copies or hard copies. Just show them their photos on the camera LCD they are happy liao.
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Perhaps you should consider this question too...
Why "photographers" with little or less experiences can charge payment to shoot for others too?
Photogs trying to get experience + xmm trying to get experience = TFCD
Is it not?
Why they can charge is because there are people willing to pay. And the whole cycle going on is making them think it's the norm. And when there's money to be made from being a supposed pretty face, more will come.
photographer: "no XMM to shoot can die.. "
XMM : "if photographer don't pay then I don't let you shoot lor.. you think I really want the photos huh? No money I am not interested!"
So you see here.. photographers more desparate.. so have to pay lor.
Solutions: Photographers don't be so despo to shoot XMM.. look for those XMM who can appreciate your photos and willing to model for you FOC. Make them come to you and "Beg" you to shoot them
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example of simple and effective old lady shot
see the excellent expressions on the faces
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How come a xmm thread became a lao auntie thread... is this the onset of a non-reversing aging population?
I am amazed that the new xmm generation are so entreprising. They have online fashion/accessory shops and they do come shoot me ads. Look at yahoo auction and ebay. Its all about making money for these kids from 10 to 18 years old. I think it is good exposure for them to learn about doing business. And i feel proud about these Singaporean kids.
When i was their age, i didnt even know how to make money through ads!
As for quality, oh well, it is demand driven. They get paid to learn how to pose (ie there are people willing to pay to coach them). Maybe we should let the buyers decide.
what's this thread abt? condemn young models? or photographers?
Eat breath LIVERPOOL!!!