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    Parents-in-law of ex-national player injured in alleged attack by pedestrian after mother-in-law flashed headlights at crossing pedestrian. -ST
    Sujin Thomas

    Wed, Apr 09, 2008
    The Straits Times

    WHEN the parents-in-law of former national football team skipper Aide Iskandar left their flat on Saturday night, they thought they were going on a routine trip to their chicken rice stall.

    What the elderly couple got instead was a hefty serving of road rage that saw them beaten up and shoved to the ground by a pedestrian.

    It all started when Madam Rubiyah Md Noor and her husband, Mr Mohamed Taib Haji Zhori, left home for Marine Parade in their Mitsubishi station wagon at around 8.45pm.

    Madam Rubiyah, 58, said she saw a man about to cross a small road near their home in Rivervale Walk, so she flashed her headlights.

    That was enough to spark a chain of events that has left her with chest pain, a broken wrist and a fractured foot - injuries that will keep her from work for at least a month.

    After she did the headlight flicker, the man blocked the couple's vehicle with outstretched arms, and cursed them in Malay.

    Mr Mohamed, 67, told The Straits Times that the man then started to egg them on, saying: 'Knock me down. You think you have a big car?'

    The couple said he appeared to be in his late 40s, was tanned and had short hair. He was wearing a white T-shirt and shorts.

    As they drove by, the man kicked the side of their car.

    Madam Rubiyah said she couldn't take the abuse any more so she stopped the vehicle and got out.

    It was then that the man shoved her to the ground, breaking her foot, she said.

    Not realising how badly hurt she was, she got up, only to be pushed over again. This time, she broke her wrist.

    Mr Mohamed got out of the car to intervene, but he too was pushed over. He landed on top of his wife.

    Passers-by shouted at the man, who walked away with a woman.

    'I told him I was going to call the police and he just walked off. If he was a gentleman, he would have stayed,' said Mr Mohamed in his executive maisonette yesterday.

    He then tailed the couple to a lift landing on the seventh storey of Block 110.

    There, the man grabbed his neck and began to punch him. Another man, who was in the lift, ran away after he was threatened.

    The enraged pedestrian let MrMohamed go after his female companion pulled him away. Mr Mohamed said he feared for his life.

    Aide, who quit the national team last November and now plays for Geylang United, said: 'This kind of dispute might be common, but when you beat up an elderly person, that is unacceptable.'

    A police spokesman told The Straits Times that they are investigating the incident.

    In hindsight, Madam Rubiyah said: 'If I had known he was going to be so violent, I wouldn't have stopped the car.'

    information from http://www.asiaone.com/print/News/Th...409-58796.html

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    The pedestrian needs to be fined or go to jail. Even if it is for a day or 3. Enuff said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx_sti_22b View Post
    The pedestrian needs to be fined or go to jail. Even if it is for a day or 3. Enuff said.
    Exactly.. sometimes it's necessary to flash because cannot see... Not because want to be rude or anything like that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsisaxon View Post
    Exactly.. sometimes it's necessary to flash because cannot see... Not because want to be rude or anything like that..
    In such cases, there's always 2 side of the story.
    Depends on which version you believe in.
    Who knows the elderly couple were the one being nasty in the first place?

    It's so common nowadays to see 'senior' ah beng and ah lian. It was highlighted in the newspaper sometime back. Being old doesn't make them wiser.

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    Flashing headlights can be a very aggressive act, in some cases it means "I am coming u BETTER get out of my way!" Does the driving school teach car drivers how to flash headlights nowadays?

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    we have not heard the story from the other side.

    sorry, i dont agree that taking it out on elderly is always wrong, what if they are the one who started it all.

    touch me and i will touch you back.

    btw, not too smart of them coming out of the car to argue with an enraged passerby.
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    I'm not that sure flashing headlights at a pedestrian is the best way to warn him about the car approaching. Sometimes the headlight can dazzle the pedestrian and blind him especially for those cars with xenon headlights. If it is safe enough, it's always better to slow down first.

    I've seen an incident where a car flashed headlights at a pedrestrian at a ZEBRA CROSSING, the poor chap was like totally dazed just stood there covering his eyes.
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    In whatever way the driver had done, beating up people is illegal, what more, beating up elderly people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razor View Post
    In whatever way the driver had done, beating up people is illegal, what more, beating up elderly people.
    dont say thing too early.

    talk is easy without having to go through the actual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denniskee View Post
    dont say thing too early.

    talk is easy without having to go through the actual.
    I stand by my statement that beating people is unlawful in Singapore. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prismatic View Post
    I'm not that sure flashing headlights at a pedestrian is the best way to warn him about the car approaching. Sometimes the headlight can dazzle the pedestrian and blind him especially for those cars with xenon headlights. If it is safe enough, it's always better to slow down first.

    I've seen an incident where a car flashed headlights at a pedrestrian at a ZEBRA CROSSING, the poor chap was like totally dazed just stood there covering his eyes.
    That my man indeed show how effective it is to flash at pedestrains who are trying to jay walk across the road. You flash at them, they stun and stop moving from where they are. Horning them might be even worst esp when some of the cars in here driven by those ah beng and ah lian have very loud horn. The pedestrain might suffer from a heart attack instead. I personally feel that as a driver, you are alway on the losing end, when you're driving, you have to watch out for pedestrains who just simply love to jay walk, cyclists who can't cycle straight on the road, jokers who play scorcer at basket ball court and keep kicking the ball onto the road, reckless F1 racer wanabes who drive vans with speed limit of 70km/h travelling on lane 1 of the expressway and when you hit some silly pedestrain who jay walks, every one start to point finger at you saying that you should slow down and blah blah blah but seem like no one point finger at pedestrain "YOU SHOULD NOT JAY WALK"

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    Quote Originally Posted by razor View Post
    I stand by my statement that beating people is unlawful in Singapore. Period.
    Agreed. Wether you are being honk at or flash at, it does not give you the right to kick ones car or beat up the driver. That an act of hooliganism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denniskee View Post
    we have not heard the story from the other side.

    sorry, i dont agree that taking it out on elderly is always wrong, what if they are the one who started it all.

    touch me and i will touch you back.

    btw, not too smart of them coming out of the car to argue with an enraged passerby.
    If someone went over and kick your car, what would you do? Smile and wave?

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    they'd should've just drove on and stop by the side of the road, and called the cops. with a hands-free kit, so he wouldn't notice. better still, take photos of the guy. this is clubsnap after all.

    getting out of your vehicle is a no-no. they could've been killed if the assailant was armed.

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    Totally agree, I'm not even sure why denniskee is raising a doubt or on what basis in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by razor View Post
    I stand by my statement that beating people is unlawful in Singapore. Period.

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    i know it is against the law. but we are human after all, and lots of things happen not pickup by law enforcement agency. you can choose to believe it or not, its up to individual.

    btw, like all things, high profile stuff gets priority. small fly or small case, even when reported, gets chuck aside.

    like jeagga wrote,

    If someone went over and kick your car, what would you do? Smile and wave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xpose View Post
    That my man indeed show how effective it is to flash at pedestrains who are trying to jay walk across the road. You flash at them, they stun and stop moving from where they are. Horning them might be even worst esp when some of the cars in here driven by those ah beng and ah lian have very loud horn. The pedestrain might suffer from a heart attack instead. I personally feel that as a driver, you are alway on the losing end, when you're driving, you have to watch out for pedestrains who just simply love to jay walk, cyclists who can't cycle straight on the road, jokers who play scorcer at basket ball court and keep kicking the ball onto the road, reckless F1 racer wanabes who drive vans with speed limit of 70km/h travelling on lane 1 of the expressway and when you hit some silly pedestrain who jay walks, every one start to point finger at you saying that you should slow down and blah blah blah but seem like no one point finger at pedestrain "YOU SHOULD NOT JAY WALK"
    That's if the person is near the roadside and about to jaywalk, what if the person is already ON your lane? If you flash your headlights and he gets stunned or dazed, do you still have time to react and brake after flashing the headlights? If you still have time to react, then the question becomes, why is there a need to flash your headlights in the first place where you could have simply just slowed down? I thinking a quick honk is still a bit safer than flashing the headlights, at least the person wun be blinded and dun noe where to avoid the coming car.

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    Somehow I feel that we're only seeing one side of the story,

    Being a motorist for more then 15years, I've seen fair share of "proud" old ladies big car owners who should be bounded to the arm chair at home.

    Beating up old people was wrong, but seriously I am sure most of the motorist would surely agreed that some of these drivers deserved to be hung.

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    beating people up is not a seizable offence in singapore unless you do it in front of the cops. so call some reinforcements and beat the guy up before the police come. Once you run, the police cannot arrest you immediately. He can only make a police report. If there are no witnesses and no evidence against you then too bad. Just make sure no one is killed or gets seriously injured. police will call you down to the station for questioning if they suspect you are the assailant and have evidence against you. The poor old couple must be having a traumatic time now.

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    Yup, unfortunately, the seizable / non-seizable divide in Singapore is a real mockery of the enforcement of law in Singapore.

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