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Old 28th March 2008   #1
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Default Hypothetical question..business trip and LIGHTWEIGHT cameras

Sometimes work takes us far from home whether we like it or not.. so we make the most of it, I suppose!

Hypothetical question.. so assuming you were on a business trip to a faraway land. I might get ONE day out of that trip (a weekend) to shoot, or wander around in the evenings after work is over. I wouldn't know WHAT I am up against. That is part of the challenge. I don't know what I'll be seeing or where I'll be going.

I'd want to bring a lightweight rig since I would probably be carrying a whole load of other biz-related gear with MINIMAL room for a camera. Thinking I'll start from my Canon 350D since it is my lightest SLR. I have all the nice gear (run a full frame setup!) but it is big, fat and heavy. Have travelled before using that stuff. Some days it feels like it WILL break your shoulder. No P&S.. I buay tahan P&S

So.. given a 350D, NO external flash, what lens(es) would you bring? I tend to shoot from the wide end so I need a lens that starts around 18mm or thereabouts. No 28mm on crop please, not wide enough for me.

Priority on light weight and versatility. Fast aperture is not a big priority, but image stabilizer is VERY important. (assume a stabilizer works for whatever I am shooting.. as a owner of lots of IS gear I know what it can and cannot do - and I know it works for me). I am thinking 18-55 IS.. but feel free to share your opinions.

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Old 29th March 2008   #2
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maybe a superzoom? the sigma 18-200 or tamron 18-250, since weight is critical for you
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Old 29th March 2008   #3
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I would actually love to travel with a 5D, 28mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.8. Fun, but might miss shots.
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Old 29th March 2008   #4
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If no flash, i'll bring my 17-55 f2.8 IS. Reasonable lowlight performance and versatility with f2.8
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Old 29th March 2008   #5
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If no flash, i'll bring my 17-55 f2.8 IS. Reasonable lowlight performance and versatility with f2.8
No choice. If I don't know what I am going to shoot I bring 17-55 2.8 IS as well. At least it's still "wide" with 17 X 1.6 crop, and if i need the reach, I move my feet.... Reasonably light and not that eye catching as well.
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Old 30th March 2008   #6
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You didn't talk about bulk so this is the setup that I've traveled with - a 5D and a 28 - 300 mm f3.5 - 5.6 L IS lens and perhaps a 17 - 35 mm f2.8 L lens. Together with a 580 Ex flash! If I feel like it, then I'll bring along a 24mm extension tube for macros. You are then set for anything that comes along!
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Old 30th March 2008   #7
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I figure I'll have the popup flash (it's not THAT bad when you use it properly ). Maybe 17-85 since I already have that. I had a bad encounter with the 17-55.. not really fond of it. I can live with the slower aperture of my 17-85 f/4-5.6.

Superzoom is tempting too, a bit heavier though, and some compromises in optical quality.

Bulk is definitely a concern - I mentioned weight.. the 28-300 is NICE, and I do have a 5D, but if I won't carry my 5D/24-105 combo (a top favorite of mine) chances are I won't carry anything bigger If I wasn't travelling on business it would be 5D, 17-40, 24-105, 100-400.

All of these are good suggestions.. keep them coming!

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Old 30th March 2008   #8
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as for me, i always bring my 350d + 10-22 + 30mm 1.4 sigma.. 8->
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Old 30th March 2008   #9
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350D + EF-S 18-55 IS

I travel on business sometimes with a 300D and EF-S 18-55 IS. The IS model is far better than the non-IS kit lens. I have this lens even though I can also bring my 17-40L, but I think the 17-40 weighs about 250g more.
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Old 30th March 2008   #10
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I agree with 350D + 10-22mm combo. While travelling, most often you will take landscapes. Keep 50mm f/1.8 if occassionally you want portraits etc.

If I had a 5D, I will probably take one of the older zooms 24-85mm which is light sharp and has a good overall range on a full frame body :-)
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Old 30th March 2008   #11
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Interesting suggestion about the 10-22.. I am a big fan of the ultrawideangle lenses, but don't know how I'd take to using one as my only walkaround zoom. Maybe I should try that one day.

Plus the 50 is light enough to just throw in the bag anyway.. so that works too.

The reason I like the 18-55 IS is the weight. It's incredibly light.


18-55 IS: 190gm
10-22: 335gm
Sigma 18-200: about 600gm
17-85 IS: 475gm
50 f/1.8: 130gm
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Old 30th March 2008   #12
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i usually bring 350D san the grip and tamron 17-50 F2.8.
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17-85 IS USM.
versatile range with IS and USM.
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Originally Posted by sloth View Post
Interesting suggestion about the 10-22.. I am a big fan of the ultrawideangle lenses, but don't know how I'd take to using one as my only walkaround zoom. Maybe I should try that one day.
can one just don't expect any isolated portraits

actually not impossible, but quite rare
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i'll bring my sigma 18 - 200mm VR lens. its good for outdoor shots but indoors will be a challenge. so it really depends on where do you intend to use it. i'll also bring a 50mm prime lens for indoors.
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17-85 IS USM.
versatile range with IS and USM.
Good to see another fan of this lens

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can one just don't expect any isolated portraits

actually not impossible, but quite rare
Hmm, that would work. I seldom if ever shoot portraits, and when I do, I shoot environmental portraits using 24-35mm approx (full frame/35mm focal lengths). The 10-22 covers an equivalent of these ranges (16-35) on a crop camera. Nice.

You are giving me a good idea.. 18-55 IS AND 10-22. Just in case I need a bit more reach, and the 18-55 is so light anyway. Can carry 18-55 instead of a prime - I am not a big fan of primes on my digital systems although I use them extensively on my medium format systems when I have more control over my subjects or shooting situations.

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i'll bring my sigma 18 - 200mm VR lens. its good for outdoor shots but indoors will be a challenge. so it really depends on where do you intend to use it. i'll also bring a 50mm prime lens for indoors.
One more vote for the Sigma. I gotta admit that's a tempting lens!

Indoors no problem, I just pop the flash up. (no, the popup flash is NOT that bad if you know how to tame it )
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40D+ EFS 17-85 IS + Puffer. No problemo.
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Old 2nd April 2008   #18
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A Nikon 5400 will do the job.

Alternatively, any Rangfinder with a 45mm F1.8 lens will kick the socks out of any D cam.
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Good to see another fan of this lens
not really considered a "fan" of the 17-85, but i find it's a useful walkard, general purpose lens.
know its limitations like distortion control, CA, etc and working around these limitations, it's considered quite a gd lens.

so it gets my vote
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Hmm, that would work. I seldom if ever shoot portraits, and when I do, I shoot environmental portraits using 24-35mm approx (full frame/35mm focal lengths). The 10-22 covers an equivalent of these ranges (16-35) on a crop camera. Nice.

You are giving me a good idea.. 18-55 IS AND 10-22. Just in case I need a bit more reach, and the 18-55 is so light anyway. Can carry 18-55 instead of a prime - I am not a big fan of primes on my digital systems although I use them extensively on my medium format systems when I have more control over my subjects or shooting situations.
i suggest something longer.. actually i find that i do not really need antyhing in between 20-50 mm most of the time.. either long, or wide.

when i went to italy last winter all i had was the 10-20 and i really had a lot of fun.

in some sense, i found it good too, because when travellnig i didn't just want to remember the random people and capture beautiful shots of them. i wanted to remember the environment they were in, etc. though of course, i'm probably just saying this because i didn't bring any other lens
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