remember that CS like everywhere else is made up of human beings. Reasons for sacarstic remarks (assuming that you are not being sensitive or that you were not in the wrong in the 1st pl)
1) some guys have their bad days and 1 2 take it out on someone and you happened to be the convenient target.
2) some guys are sacarstic in nature; they do it to everyone, everytime
3) some guys are brand loyal (say anything bad abt vivitar or Canon and its ur fault - u ask for it)
4) some guys dunno anything but 1 2 sound like they know everything - give a nice sounding answer to awe everyone
there are all kinds of ppl in this world, dun let urself b dishearten by jus a couple of them, they are not worth it ... by and large, CS'ers are willing to help and explain (even for Qns that has been raised so many times that you wonder if you can compare that to sand in the beach or stars in the sky) ...
Last edited by Old Boy; 1st March 2008 at 06:49 PM.
most people here are more than happy to help
there is a huge world of difference between a newcomer who has shown genuine interest and a positive attitude and open mind, and a newcomer who opens his mouth wide and tells everybody to dump whatever information they can in.
if you haven't noticed already, threads here whereby the newcomer has a better sense of where he's coming from and where he's going get a lot more responses which are serious.
it isn't wrong not-to-know, but if you come in and expect a run-through of the basics from people, i am curious why this is being done in the first place - hasn't anyone here seen sulhan's photography basics thread? hasn't anyone here read zoossh's newbie guide thread? i have directed people there more than once, and sometimes, they just ignore the fact that there is loads of information there which would answer their queries much easily, along with other problems they may encounter. i think it's a sadder fact that we have people here who put in effort to help out but they not only don't get thanked, no one reads their thread.
furthermore, this isn't photographic school. most people posting here are full-grown adults. of course if one has trouble understanding the intrinsics of the internet due to generation gap, it's a different story.. but i would like to think that the majority should have no trouble.. which perturbs me as to why we are getting fundamental questions. if there are 8000 sites out there, why not read them, they will be written and expressed in a much better and basic way than what most here would give you. that is my point.
what can you expect to gain from cs? loads.
what can you expect not to gain from cs? loads.
how does one gain from cs? read a lot, shoot a lot, and post their pictures up for critique without becoming too overly defensive when people give constructive comments. filter the obvious troublemakers who are out to slam every newbie/everybody in fact, from the ones who are possibly curt and scathing but are really trying to help. that is definitely the best way to go about it.
Last edited by night86mare; 1st March 2008 at 06:54 PM.
sorry for the slight ot, i am interested to know why photographs of people using wide angle are taboo, especially when the distortion is not on the person itself
most of the portrait photography books i have read do not exactly mention this as a rule - other than the fact that you should not shoot too closely to the person else they will become distorted
otherwise, a wide angle lens to take people is more than ok - it has the benefit of showing the setting, etc. of course if you're talking about classic type of portraits, then it is a different story. a lot of our really good professional wedding photographers and prominent portrait & pose members here use a lot of the wide angle lens when shooting people.. so i'm not really sure where you're coming from.
CS is a good place to learn photography, enjoy phototography, improve one's photography, make friends through photography, make $$$ in photography, etc etc....
Just read the forum rules and FAQ's, apply common sense and etiquette, and most of all, have fun shooting!
As long as you don't post your question in the Kopitiam section, you will get answers. The most stupid old birds only post in Kopitiam! I mean how stupid can one be to be posting there all the time? They are even so stupid that they don't know what to do when their Apple becomes a Lemon!
sarcastic responses aside, sometimes you get good info and sometimes you get totally wrong answers. as a newbie you every reply may sound correct and it may be difficult to sift out the wrong ones. i would suggest getting a basic photography book to read up first or sign up for a basic photography class.
if you willing to learn, many will share with you.
ask the right question, you will get a reply.
ask with the right tone, you will get a polite reply.
ask to the right person, you will get the best answer.
if some one tell you to do a search for your question, means that you can google or search in clubsnap and able get your answers within 10 sec. So, JUST DO IT.
no one can really tell you about the fundamental of photography in just a few lines, best you get a basic photography book and staring reading. You need to keep referring to the book, so the book is still the best tool for learning.
I had improved on my skill by joining some members in the meet up, looking @ the pictures and trying out on my own. Perhaps its down to 1 person luck to meet someone to impact certain tips and try out on his own.
Let's get rolling :)
The trick for a newbie is to ask a question that precludes an answer such as "Go and check google lah".
I find instead of asking, "What can I do with a lens cap?" if I ask "How shall I separate reality from fantasy in photography?" it will solicitate plenty of response.
a good place to source 2nd hand product..
the national library is a good place to start. seems like they r increasing books on photography down the years. need time to read and experiment. gd luck!