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Old 29th February 2008   #1
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Default Which Nikon Fisheye to get? 10.5 or 12-24mm?

Hi there,

I use a D80 (1.7 factor, not full frame) and have a 18-200mm.

I like the wide angle pictures and thinking of getting a wide angle lens.

I dont know which of the above lens should i get?

Appreciate the advice of people who has gone through this dilemna.
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Old 29th February 2008   #2
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Default Re: Which Nikon Fisheye to get? 10.5 or 12-24mm?

The 12-24 is a rectilinear lens, not fisheye.
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is 12-24mm a fisheye ?? i dont think so .... maybe the Tokina 10-17mm is the closest match but i think the 10.5mm is still better ...
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Default Re: Which Nikon Fisheye to get? 10.5 or 12-24mm?

Nikon have a few fisheye lens, only 10.5mm lens is design to for DX camera, 12~24mm is not a fisheye lens.
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Default Re: Which Nikon Fisheye to get? 10.5 or 12-24mm?

Originally Posted by JacePhoto View Post
Hi there,

I use a D80 (1.7 factor, not full frame) and have a 18-200mm.

I like the wide angle pictures and thinking of getting a wide angle lens.

I dont know which of the above lens should i get?

Appreciate the advice of people who has gone through this dilemna.
Yes, yes, i know 12-24 is not a fisheye. Perhaps i should rephase the question and say, Which should i get?

Has anyone used the tokina 10-17 before? Seems to fill in the gap that i am looking at?
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Default Re: Which Nikon Fisheye to get? 10.5 or 12-24mm?

Originally Posted by JacePhoto View Post
Yes, yes, i know 12-24 is not a fisheye. Perhaps i should rephase the question and say, Which should i get?

Has anyone used the tokina 10-17 before? Seems to fill in the gap that i am looking at?
Then it is up to you whether you need a fish eye lens or a wide angle ( rectilinear ) zoom.
Personally i think a fish eye has too niche a use for my purpose.

BTW issin the D80 a 1.5x crop factor

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Default Re: Which Nikon Fisheye to get? 10.5 or 12-24mm?

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Yes, yes, i know 12-24 is not a fisheye. Perhaps i should rephase the question and say, Which should i get?

Has anyone used the tokina 10-17 before? Seems to fill in the gap that i am looking at?
Depends what you want to shoot.

fisheye lens is a lens with special effect, every shots all are fisheye will make people sick.

some to ultra wide angle lens.

cos we will not be very comfortable to see too many something unusual shots.
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Default Re: Which Nikon Fisheye to get? 10.5 or 12-24mm?

Simple. Get both just as I had done.
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Simple. Get both just as I had done.

Thanks for the feedback.

1) Yeah, crop factor is 1.5x. Sorry, my technical knowledge is very poor.

2) David, which one do you use more often or you dont use both that often?

3) Yes, Fisheye can irritate when it is shot excessively but no fish eye... also headache. Thinking of the 12-24 but the 12 mm seems so close to the 18 -200 mm i already have.

Headache siah.
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18mm and 12mm is very different
i'd suggest doing more research first
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14-24 is a worthy choice for consideration for a wide angle.
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Default Re: Which Nikon Fisheye to get? 10.5 or 12-24mm?

i have the following lenses.

nikkor 12-24mm: good landscape lens, ca and distortions are well controlled, image reproduction sharp. only used for travels and walkabouts.
tokina 10-17mm: fun lenses to have, lives on my d70 for a long time. at 10mm FE effect, 17mm WA effect. shooting style can vary with this lens due to the options given.
zenitar 16mm: cheap lens to have but hopeless...

i have tried the following lenses as well

nikkor 10.5mm: very very nice FE effect, good image reproduction, ca well controlled.. but that's it.
nikk0r 16mm: nice image reproduction but with crop factor becomes a 24mm FE, not so useful IMO.

as to ur problem of 12mm being close to the 18-200mm, dun worry. it's not close and shooting with the 12-24 and the 18-200 is very different.

depends on ur shooting style, i would recommend the tokina.
reasons: cheap, good range of shooting style, image reproduction is good, ca well controlled.
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Originally Posted by JacePhoto View Post
Thanks for the feedback.

1) Yeah, crop factor is 1.5x. Sorry, my technical knowledge is very poor.

2) David, which one do you use more often or you dont use both that often?

3) Yes, Fisheye can irritate when it is shot excessively but no fish eye... also headache. Thinking of the 12-24 but the 12 mm seems so close to the 18 -200 mm i already have.

Headache siah.
what i think you should do is to go to flickr or pbase and search thru the database. Many people tagged their photos with the lens the use for the shot as well. I have seen the tokina being used underwater and its really a great lens. But on land, with so many straight lines, I m not so sure abt its benefits throughout its focal range.

btw, why no fisheye headache ??
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Default Re: Which Nikon Fisheye to get? 10.5 or 12-24mm?

Originally Posted by tribal.snake View Post
i have the following lenses.

nikkor 12-24mm: good landscape lens, ca and distortions are well controlled, image reproduction sharp. only used for travels and walkabouts.
tokina 10-17mm: fun lenses to have, lives on my d70 for a long time. at 10mm FE effect, 17mm WA effect. shooting style can vary with this lens due to the options given.
zenitar 16mm: cheap lens to have but hopeless...

i have tried the following lenses as well

nikkor 10.5mm: very very nice FE effect, good image reproduction, ca well controlled.. but that's it.
nikk0r 16mm: nice image reproduction but with crop factor becomes a 24mm FE, not so useful IMO.

as to ur problem of 12mm being close to the 18-200mm, dun worry. it's not close and shooting with the 12-24 and the 18-200 is very different.

depends on ur shooting style, i would recommend the tokina.
reasons: cheap, good range of shooting style, image reproduction is good, ca well controlled.
Hi Tribal Snake and all,

Thanks for your input. I learned alot and i think i get the idea. I need to perhaps find out more on the 12 - 24 or the Tokina 10-17.

Thanks.
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Default Re: Which Nikon Fisheye to get? 10.5 or 12-24mm?

Originally Posted by bighead View Post
what i think you should do is to go to flickr or pbase and search thru the database. Many people tagged their photos with the lens the use for the shot as well. I have seen the tokina being used underwater and its really a great lens. But on land, with so many straight lines, I m not so sure abt its benefits throughout its focal range.

btw, why no fisheye headache ??
No lah, headache comes from the dilemna on which one to pick.... :-)
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how about a 8mm. ha. It's pretty cool though you may not be able to find it anywhere now. good to go with a D3 =D

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wow... very rare indeed!
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Default Re: Which Nikon Fisheye to get? 10.5 or 12-24mm?

get the 12-24. the 10.5 is nice to play with and give some novelty shots. but 12-24 more pratical as wide angle. you can always shoot at 12mm and photoshop it to look like fisheye.

easier to distort a picture than to straighten one.
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Old 29th February 2008   #19
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not to mention the price diff.

Tokina 10-17mm: $890
Nikkor 10.5mm FE: $1050
Nikkor 12-24mm : $1900 (saw it somewhere in the forum)
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Originally Posted by allstar View Post
how about a 8mm. ha. It's pretty cool though you may not be able to find it anywhere now. good to go with a D3 =D

Doesn't it require full time mirror lock up?
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